Ep. 64: A Disturbing Trip to the Grocery Store

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Shanna Micko: Hi. Welcome to Big Fat Positive with Shanna and Laura. In this week’s episode, we have our weekly check-ins. We have a special segment called Mom Confessions, where we admit some of our most shameful mommy transgressions, and we wrap things up with our BFPs and BFNs. Let’s get to it.

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Shanna Micko: Hi. Welcome to the show. Hey, Laura.

Laura Birek: Hey, Shanna.

Shanna Micko: How are you guys doing? Give us your weekly check-in.

Laura Birek: My baby is seven months and two weeks now and the big news around here is he’s pulling up to a standing position.

Shanna Micko: Woo.

Laura Birek: Yay. Little baby boy.

Shanna Micko: That’s so cute.

Laura Birek: It’s only happening if you sit him on his butt first in front of something and the something is the Zany Zoo. Do you know what that is?

Shanna Micko: Yeah, that box with all the little doodads on it.

Laura Birek: It got wires that the little wooden beads go along and it’s all wood, which is actually really nice. It’s wooden metal. Anyway, it’s cute. Zany Zoo is cute. We got two of them as hand-me-downs. So we kept one and gave one to our friend Steve and Keri and he grabs onto those wires on the top and just pulls himself right up out of nowhere.

Shanna Micko: Oh, nice. It’s pretty stable. Huh? Doesn’t tip over on him?

Laura Birek: It does. Someone has to be there standing and holding. I don’t really know what to do about it, because now all of a sudden he’s doing that. It’s going to topple over on him. So it’s just not quite heavy enough. I think I’m going to try to figure out a way to anchor it and part of my plan is that I ended up getting a play yard. Is that what they call them? Baby jail.

Shanna Micko: It’s what they used to call it.

Laura Birek: Yeah, the baby jail. I got a different brand than yours, just because I found a deal on Amazon, but I got the Graco. I think they’re all very similar, but it looks a lot like yours. What was it?

Shanna Micko: Ours was the North States Bus.

Laura Birek: It’s a plastic sturdy gate that you click in and put around the baby and so I got that. He’s not super into it.

Shanna Micko: He’s not super into being locked up away from you.

Laura Birek: No, he’s not even super into it when I’m in there with him. It’s interesting. He knows something’s different. Obviously, he has eyes. He can tell something different. It shouldn’t make a difference. He wasn’t going anywhere anyway. He’s barely army crawling at this point. He moved fairly fast, but not that fast. He’s staying on his play mat, but you put those gates up and he’s just like, I’m so hemmed in.

Shanna Micko: I think that says something about his spirit.

Laura Birek: I guess it does. I don’t know. We’re going to keep trying, because it’s important to have a yes space. I totally believe in that. I want him to thrive in it. So what I’ve decided to do is with the Zany Zoo, I got a sturdy string, twine and I can lash it to the play yard gate, because it’s all an open mesh basically. I don’t know how you would describe it: open work lattice. I kind of like wove it in and out and it anchors at multiple places, so it really can’t pull over. That’s been the fix there and that works well, but it’s exciting. I’m excited to see him on the move. I’m also a little scared of it. My little baby who I used to just put down and he stayed right there is now like nope.

Shanna Micko: I got places to go, people to see.

Laura Birek: That was something and then the other thing that we did is we went in to get a checkup to make sure his ear infection, which if you may recall from like weeks ago he had an ear infection and they set a checkup just to see if his ear infection cleared and his ear infection cleared. It’s all better, which thank goodness.

Shanna Micko: Yeah.

Laura Birek: But when we were there they were like, “Do you want his flu shot?” I was like, “Do I?” They’re like, “Well, babies need two. The first time they get it I guess they get two.” So she’s like, “If you get it now, then you can get it when you come in for your nine month appointment. It should be fine.” It should be I guess six weeks apart. But she’s like eight doesn’t matter. It’s at least six weeks apart. So he got his first of two flu shots and I felt kind of bad, because I know he doesn’t fully understand what I’m saying or maybe at all. But the whole day I was like, “We’re going to the doctor later, but you’re not going to get a shot.”

Shanna Micko: Oh, liar, mama.

Laura Birek: She’s just going to look in your ear and then they were like, “Do you want a shot?” I was like, fuck, man. I lied to my baby all day. 

But of course, I don’t want to come in again, like we’re here. Let’s do it. But guess what? They gave him his shot in his thigh. He watched the whole time he saw them do it. He did not cry.

Shanna Micko: What?

Laura Birek: They gave him the shot in his leg. He watched them do it and I’m sitting there of course anxious, waiting for it to happen. Looks down, looks up and he is like, cool.

Shanna Micko: Wow. Very impressive.

Laura Birek: So I guess it wasn’t traumatic.

Shanna Micko: No, because he’s like, it’s not a shot. Mom told me I’m not getting a shot today. So this is some other weird thing that’s happening. I don’t know what it is.

Laura Birek: That was good. The other news is if you recall my drama about the cat and his broken leg…

Shanna Micko: Yes.

Laura Birek: The cat, his name is Cal. Cal: the cat. Cal went in for his surgery this week.

Shanna Micko: Oh, man. How’s he doing?

Laura Birek: He’s doing okay. He just had it done, so he’s really groggy still. What they did is called an FHO. I think it’s like a full head ostectomy, which not to get too graphic, but instead of repairing the head of the femur, because the break was at the very top of the femur. It’s like a ball and socket joint where the kitty hip is. It’s like our hip joint and it was broken right up at the top. So I guess instead of doing a full hip replacement like they do with humans, they just cut off the top of the ball of the joint and then leave it and then they create scar tissue and it creates a false joint and apparently they’re going to be fine. He’s already walking on it. It’s crazy.

Shanna Micko: Wow. Nine lives, man.

Laura Birek: I’m telling you. This cat is used a couple of them but I have him in one of those large dog kennels. So he’s not jumping, because he’s not allowed to jump or run for two weeks. It’s going to be a long journey, but he came through it really well and so I’m glad about that.

Shanna Micko: Good. I’m glad that all is well now after that traumatic week you had.

Laura Birek: I have to say, I don’t like that he has to be in the kennel, but there is something really nice about knowing where he is and knowing that the baby can’t be grabbing him and he can’t be jumping on breaking his other femur. Our week is settled: ear infection’s gone, no cry flu shot, pulling up to stand. What can go wrong?

Shanna Micko: Everything. Just kidding. Nothing.

Laura Birek: Shanna, how are you? Tell me about your week.

Shanna Micko: Speaking of everything going wrong.

Laura Birek: Oh, no.

Shanna Micko: Oh, God. Okay. My baby’s eight months, two weeks and I mentioned that I was having some hormonal emotional stuff after weaning breastfeeding and it just hit peak velocity this week. I don’t know why. I think it’s just a combination of all the breastfeeding hormones and the birth control and CeCe is leaping and working from home and my dog got sick too. Like all of a sudden one morning she had like 100 tiny bruises all over her tiny little stomach.

Laura Birek: Sasha?

Shanna Micko: I know. So I had to take her to the vet and all of this anxiety was just amping up and up and I had a minor medical procedure that I had to go to the doctor for and take a day off work. All of this stuff just was building and building and building and at one point, CeCe and I walked over to the grocery store one day to just buy a couple things for dinner and I all of a sudden felt like I was in a movie or something surreal. I felt like people were just coming out of left and right and like, “What a cute baby? That’s such a cute baby.” I usually love attention on my baby, but it just all felt like too much and then I forgot what I was getting and then I was hyperventilating and cold sweating.

Laura Birek: Oh, no.

Shanna Micko: I was like, where’s the bread? I shop in this store all the time, but I could not find the bread and I thought I was going to pass out and I’m like, we got to get out of here and so I came home and told Steve about this and he’s like, I think you had a panic attack.

Laura Birek: Yeah, I was going to say that sounds like a panic attack.

Shanna Micko: I’d never had anything like that in my life.

Laura Birek: It’s terrifying.

Shanna Micko: It was. I know people have had panic attacks where they feel like they’re going to die or way more extreme. So it wasn’t that extreme. Thank God. But it was definitely unnerving and I had to walk all the way home afterwards to settle down a little bit.

Laura Birek: Oh, yeah.

Shanna Micko: But it was weird and it just felt like a physical manifestation of all of this anxiety and emotional stuff that I’ve just been dealing with lately. I guess all I have to say is postpartum times can be tough and especially eight months out still, you think you’re past all of the really hard stuff, but still sometimes you can get hit with some tricky situations.

Laura Birek: I think people underestimate how lingering the effects of having a baby can be. Like you said, weaning is a huge hormonal shift in your body. But no one really talks about a weaning depression or anxiety or anything. It’s always just postpartum and everyone thinks that it goes away after eight weeks or something. I’m sorry you had to go through that. That sounds like a scary thing and also with your baby there, if you didn’t know what was going on, then you thought you were going to pass out. Were you scared what’s going to happen to CeCe?

Shanna Micko: Not in that moment. It was just so surreal that I just felt more confused than anything. I didn’t understand why it was happening to me or why I couldn’t remember like the simplest things and why I couldn’t just be friendly to people like I normally am. It was all just so surreal and confusing that I kind of even forgot that I had the baby, which is also kind of scary. I knew I had her, because she’s in the stroller in front of me, but yeah.

Laura Birek: That is really scary. I’ve had one panic attack basically in my life, like a real one. I don’t even remember if there was any real reason, what triggered it. All I know is that I was lying on the couch doing nothing. This is before I was married I think and all of a sudden my heart just starts racing like I’ve just run probably like a quarter mile, because I don’t run really well. But my heart is racing, I feel like I can’t catch my breath and I think I had just been abroad. I had, because I then called my dad, because we had gone on a trip together and I was like, “Do I have DVT or deep vein thrombosis,” because I was thinking that’s why I can’t catch my breath and he kind of talked me down. He was like, “Yesterday we were talking on the phone and you were walking up a very steep hill and you were fine. You don’t have deep vein thrombosis.” 

I was like, like, “Okay, good. Then what’s going on?” He’s like, “It sounds like a panic attack,” and deep breathing doesn’t really do much. You just kind of have to ride it out.

Shanna Micko: Yeah, it is true. The coping techniques that you kind of learned to deal with stress don’t really help when you’re in such a high anxiety state. Even though I wasn’t in a panic attack state all week, there was just this tightness and tension in my chest that would not go away and I’m deep breathing the shit out of my lungs and it’s just like, nope, we are not going to touch that. It’s like, I don’t know. I guess I need to go to the spa for like a full 48 hours.

Laura Birek: Like three weeks minimum. I feel like when they said women were hysterical and had attacks of the nerves, that’s what they would do. Right? They would send us to the countryside for a month.

Shanna Micko: That sounds great. Bye, Steve. I’m going to go to the countryside. Stay with the girls. Oh, man. But that’s pretty much my week. CeCe’s doing great aside from leaping, doing all the things she does, so that’s pretty much it for me.

Laura Birek: Well, I hope that you are feeling better and I’m sorry you had to go through that friend.

Shanna Micko: Thank you.

Laura Birek: Do you want to take a deep breath and then move on to our special segment?

Shanna Micko: Let’s do it.

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Laura Birek: We’re back and this week’s special segment is a super fun one. It’s Mom Confessions.

Shanna Micko: Mom confessions.

Laura Birek: Mom confessions where Shanna and I confess some stuff we’ve been doing, but there’s a twist. We each will say one true confession and one lie and we have to guess which one’s, which it’s pretty fun. Shanna, do you want to do your first ones, see if I can guess which one’s your true mom confession?

Shanna Micko: Yes, okay. Here’s my first one. In my presence my baby has eaten all of the following items: cardboard, Cool Whip, a sequin or I spilled an entire cup of iced tea on my sleeping baby.

Laura Birek: What are the three things: cardboard, a sequin and what’s the other one?

Shanna Micko: Cool Whip.

Laura Birek: Geez. These are both plausible. You know what? I’m going to go with the sequin.

Shanna Micko: That’s right.

Laura Birek: Yay.

Shanna Micko: I almost spilled tea on my baby, because I put it in the stroller cup holder and I got this ginormous tea and I’m walking along and I hit a bump and it shook. I was like, oh my God, please don’t and I saved it.

Laura Birek: That’s good for the baby and for the iced tea.

Shanna Micko: Very good for the iced tea. Very good. Anyway, it is so hard to keep small babies from eating shit that is around. So yes, a random sequin was in her yes space the other day and I’m just like, this is the yes space. Everything’s fine. I’m like, what are you eating? It’s a freaking sequin from I guess Elle’s dress or something. It’s like, where does that even come from?

Laura Birek: Here’s what I want to know. Did the sequin reappear?

Shanna Micko: I wasn’t going to go dig in, Laura, and I didn’t see anything shiny. But I’m imagining it did, because she’ll eat a pea and that’ll reappear. But the Cool Whip, that was just a relapse in judgment. I have an obsession with ice cream sundaes with Cool Whip and I was just like, do you want to taste this? She just like licked it and I was like, why did I just do that? Who knows? Along the same lines, I couldn’t include it in this list. But the other day she was crawling around in the kitchen and I saw her pick something up. I thought it was a little Cheerio and I was like, what’s that? It was my dog’s Paxil pill.

Laura Birek: No.

Shanna Micko: Yes, I caught it just in time.

Laura Birek: That’s scary.

Shanna Micko: Yeah, that’s really scary. I give it to my dog in a piece of Turkey and she usually eats it, but I guess it dropped out of her mouth that day and I didn’t notice and my baby almost ate a freaking antidepressant.

Laura Birek: Wow. It probably would’ve been fine I guess, but still that’s not something you want to happen. Geez, that’s scary.

Shanna Micko: That’s so scary. So I got to keep an eye on that girl. She wants to eat anything and everything.

Laura Birek: That’s a good close call to teach you a lesson.

Shanna Micko: Yes, definitely. Got my guard up.

Laura Birek: Oh my goodness. What about you? What have got for me?

Laura Birek: Well, mine may or may not be related to yours Shanna. Mine is also about ingesting things.

Shanna Micko: Okay.

Laura Birek: Is it I let my baby eat ice cream or I let my baby have a sip of beer?

Shanna Micko: You let your baby have beer or let your baby have ice cream. I am going to go with ice cream.

Laura Birek: That is correct. Yes, no one has to call the cops on me. Just the mommy cops. I will say that my mom was in town recently and she had an empty beer bottle and she let him put his mouth over it and I was like, all right. But there was no beer in it. I don’t think babies need sugar. I’m not trying to give him a bunch of sugar, but I was at the Glendale Galleria recently and we went to SomiSomi. Do you know about SomiSomi?

Shanna Micko: No, is that an ice cream joint?

Laura Birek: It is. It’s a Korean ice cream joint. I call it the fish ice cream place, which Corey is always like, that’s so gross. It’s not fish ice cream. It’s soft serve ice cream that’s delicious and they have these waffle cone type things that are in the shape of like a fish.

Shanna Micko: Okay.

Laura Birek: Then they fill those with fillings, so you can put like nutella or custard inside the little waffle cone and then they put the ice cream on top.

Shanna Micko: Ooh.

Laura Birek: You can swirl and then they have toppings. It’s the best. If you look it up, you’ll see it. Like on Instagram, you’ll see so many people, because it’s one of those influencer style places where everyone’s taking cute pictures with their fish ice cream. But I was there and my baby’s looking at me expectantly and I was like, it’s a hot summer day. He can have a little ice cream, so I got one of those little spoons and I gave him some from the milk side. I didn’t give him the matcha side, because I thought that had caffeine in it. I’m not sure. It probably does a little, right?

Shanna Micko: Probably green tea.

Laura Birek: Not a surprise. He loved it.

Shanna Micko: I would imagine.

Laura Birek: He just kept wanting more. I gave him like two tiny little spoonfulls and then I was like, you know what? Maybe let’s not do this. Am I creating a monster?

Shanna Micko: But hey, Dr. Robert Hamilton told us to give a baby everything except honey before they turn one year. So you got to make sure they’re not allergic to ice cream.

Laura Birek: I was definitely making sure they weren’t allergic to fish shaped ice cream.

Shanna Micko: Very important. I think that’s a good mom move.

Laura Birek: They also have those perfect rainbow sprinkles that they put on top. Anyway, next time you’re out in my neck of the woods, we’re going to go to SomiSomi. I don’t know if it’s outside of LA. I have no idea. They have a couple locations. There’s one in Korea town and there’s one in the Glendale Galleria. I’m sure there’s more.

Shanna Micko: How do you spell that: S-O-M-I?

Laura Birek: Yeah, two S-O-M-I-S-O-M-I. Yes, okay. We are bad moms to our babies all kinds of stuff.

Shanna Micko: Oops.

Laura Birek: What is your next mom confession?

Shanna Micko: I often regret that I didn’t have a son or I lied to an old lady about my baby’s name.

Laura Birek: Ooh, I can see you lying to an old lady. I’m going with that one.

Shanna Micko: I totally did.

Laura Birek: Also, I know you were excited to have two girls.

Shanna Micko: That’s true. That wasn’t a very good one for a tricking you, but maybe the audience was a little confused.

Laura Birek: In suspense.

Shanna Micko: Yes, exactly. I was at the doctor’s office and there’s a communal bathroom in the hallway of all the offices and I just run into this lady who’s very sweet, very, very sweet, probably in her eighties. She’s like, “Your baby’s so cute,” and I’m like, “Thank you,” and she’s like, “What’s her name?” You know CeCe is not her real name. Remember that’s her pseudonym for the show. But in real life, her name is not something that anyone has heard before and so it’s an unfamiliar word and just in general, I don’t love saying her full name to strangers, because then that turns the conversation into what her name is about and stuff. So I just made up a different name and told it to the lady.

Laura Birek: So what name did you say?

Shanna Micko: Betsy.

Laura Birek: You’re like, okay. This is an old lady. What’s an old lady name? I think I’m just going call her Betsy.

Shanna Micko: It rolled off the tongue and it’s an easy name to digest for anyone. It is cute.

Laura Birek: I haven’t met a baby named Betsy. Not since the old days.

Shanna Micko: Anyway, she was like, “That’s good, because my granddaughter’s named her kids the weirdest thing.”

Laura Birek: Oh, God.

Shanna Micko: Then she said, “Sky and Carter.”

Laura Birek: What? Those are weird.

Shanna Micko: I was like, lady, I’m real glad I didn’t tell you my baby’s real name, because that would’ve blown your mind. She would not have been able to handle it. So I think I made the right decision in the moment. I didn’t blow her mind. It was just fine and she oohed and odd over the baby and we moved on and it was I think great.

Laura Birek: I think that’s a nice white lie. I remember with your first baby, Elle, you didn’t lie, but when people would ask a couple, “What’s her name?” You’d just go with a much shorter version of her name.

Shanna Micko: Yes, exactly. Checkers and stuff like that.

Laura Birek: It’s just a whole conversation you don’t have time for.

Shanna Micko: It’s a conversation I have a lot, because the kids have more unique names, I have that conversation a lot and sometimes I just don’t want to. So Betsy it is.

Laura Birek: Heaven to Betsy.

Shanna Micko: Well, you’re two for two. Okay. You got me, Laura. What’s your last one?

Laura Birek: I’ve left my baby in a poopy diaper, because I knew my husband would be home in 15 minutes or I’ve bitten my baby’s nails while he nurses.

Shanna Micko: I think you left the poopy diaper for Corey.

Laura Birek: Not true.

Shanna Micko: Wow.

Laura Birek: Good wife.

Shanna Micko: You are a good wife and a good mom. I guess babies don’t want to sit in poop for 15 more minutes than they have to.

Laura Birek: No, they don’t. But I have accidentally left him in a poopy diaper, because he doesn’t usually tell me. But it’s not because I wanted to avoid it. But no, I have bitten his nails on more than one occasion. Mostly because I usually keep the nail trimmers in a little bamboo box next to the couch and when I nurse, I usually will pull it out and that’s when I trim his nails, because he is so distracted by nursing that I could easily trim his nails, but there are times where the box has migrated and his nails get long so fast and they get these sharp little corners. Honestly, I bite my own nails. I don’t like it. It’s a habit I wish I could break. I’ve tried everything. Usually, we ask people to write in and give suggestions. I’d actually ask you not to because I literally have tried everything and I just don’t think it’s in the cards for me to not buy my nails.

Shanna Micko: Have you tried wearing gloves 24/7?

Laura Birek: Yes, absolutely.

Shanna Micko: Gnaw through the tips.

Laura Birek: I got all these white cotton gloves that were disposable essentially to wear and you couldn’t really type with them. The problem is I do it when I’m at the computer working and it’s mindless. I just don’t even notice, so I couldn’t really type properly. So I’ve gotten like, you know those little finger condoms they use at grocery stores when they’re counting out money?

Shanna Micko: Yes.

Laura Birek: Tried to wear those for all the time and your fingers get sweaty. I’ve tried the nail polish. That tastes bad. I’ve tried the snapping a thing on your wrist every time. I guess I haven’t tried hypnotherapy. Maybe I’ll try that. But so it’s not out of character for me to bite nails, but now I’m worried that he I’m going to teach him to do it. I don’t want him to do it.

Shanna Micko: He probably hasn’t picked up on the habit yet, but he might and I was going to say I think you’re probably biting his nails as a surrogate for your own nails.

Laura Birek: Maybe. It’s not past me, beyond my comprehension that I’m like, this feels comfortable. I guess it’s gross.

Shanna Micko: If you’re ever working at your computer and just reach over and grab his hand and start gnawing on his, you know you have a problem.

Laura Birek: That would be a real problem. Someone calls CPS. But anyway, that’s my confession. Now everyone knows.

Shanna Micko: Yes, now they all know our deep dark secrets and you guys you can share yours with us too. You know we love hearing your dirt. You know we love hearing from you. We’ll share all our handles at the end of the show. But for now, should we take a break and move on, Laura?

Laura Birek: Sounds like a plan.

Shanna Micko: Okay.

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Shanna Micko: We wrap things up with our weekly BFPs and BFNs. Laura, what do you got for us?

Laura Birek: I have a BFP.

Shanna Micko: All right.

Laura Birek: It’s the Mommy Hook. Do you know about this?

Shanna Micko: What? No.

Laura Birek: It’s the Mommy Hook Carabiner. You know what a carabiner is?

Shanna Micko: Yes.

Laura Birek: It’s the thing they use in climbing that’s like a clippy thingamabob. So they make one that’s called the Mommy Hook and actually what I have is not the Mommy Hook brand. It’s a knockoff Mommy Hook, but it’s all the same idea and what it is, is it’s a giant carabiner that fits over the handle of your stroller so that…

Shanna Micko: Are we talking the size of a watermelon or what?

Laura Birek: Like a large mango. No, okay. It’s kind of shaped like a mango. I don’t know. It might be. I can tell you. Let’s see exactly. So it’s six inches long and a little more than four and a half wide. It’s much bigger than your hand. The idea is that you hang it on your stroller and then you can clip bags in to help carry or anything. I actually have three of them, because I bought two that came into two pack and inherited one and I always have them on the straps of my diaper bag. I have one on each of the straps of my diaper bag and then I have one on my stroller and it’s saved my life so much. I forgot to tell you the best part. So it’s not just a big ass carabiner. It’s a big ass carabiner that has foam on the straight edge of it so that you can clip, like five grocery bags into it and carry it and it doesn’t dig into your hands.

Shanna Micko: Awesome.

Laura Birek: So you can have baby in one arm and carry a bunch of crap in the other, because we’re always doing that and I have the problem where my car is parked in the back and I have to go downstairs to get to my house. So I can’t quickly run out, put the baby in his yes space and run out and get more stuff easily. I’m like fully leaving the house. I’m not just going to the driveway or whatever.

Shanna Micko: Right.

Laura Birek: I’m always trying to get all my shit in one go and I would’ve been really screwed without these mommy hooks.

Shanna Micko: I really wish I had one of those when Elle was a baby, because I lived in the second floor of an apartment building. Same thing. I had like nine Trader Joe’s bags on one shoulder and a baby in the other and it was awful.

Laura Birek: Yeah, it’s awful. I agree and this is a really great little thing. So the official Mommy Hook right now on Amazon is $8.49. You can get knockoffs like I did for two for $9.

Shanna Micko: Cool.

Laura Birek: Highly recommend it. Go get yourself one. We’ll of course link to it on our website, so you will be able to find it, bigfatpositivepodcast.com. Shanna, I want to know. Do you have a BFP or a BFN this week?

Shanna Micko: I do have a BFP.

Laura Birek: Good.

Shanna Micko: Despite the taxing week I’ve had and it is pizza. That’s essentially the BFP.

Laura Birek: It’s every day all day pizza. Thank you.

Shanna Micko: Oh my gosh, I love pizza. But here’s the thing. I cut out dairy for a long time for breastfeeding.

Laura Birek: That’s right.

Shanna Micko: The last time I had pizza, my husband and I went on a date night to this little winery place that has artisan Neapolitan style pizzas, which is my favorite type of pizza and I got it without cheese on it and it was still yummy and everything, but it’s not the same. Right?

Laura Birek: Cheese is kind of an integral part of a pizza in my opinion.

Shanna Micko: Yes, I do love the dough and the crust of the Neapolitan pizza, but so I had started introducing a little dairy here and there. But now that I’m done breastfeeding and everything, we actually had a date night, so that’s another part of the BFP. My mom came into town and watched the girls and we went out to this place again. We got this pizza and we’re like, it’s the first time you’ve had cheese on your pizza in months and I was like, oh my God. Yes. It was just so heavenly. It was amazing and it was a million times better. So it was a highlight of my week.

Laura Birek: If you could go back and talk to your 25 year old self and you’re like, look, the highlight of my week as I got to have cheese on my pizza. If they would be like, oh my God!

Shanna Micko: Like you sad, poor woman, what have you done with your life? I thought you would be traveling the Alps and sky diving.

Laura Birek: Which calls for surprise.

Shanna Micko: Exactly. Oh my gosh.

Laura Birek: I get that. Oh, God. I love Neapolitan pizza. There’s a place in Hollywood apparently that was just opened by a guy from Naples who’s like the guy.

Shanna Micko: Yes, we have to go there.

Laura Birek: I really want to go. We should go. If we go, we will take pictures and put it on Instagram and show everyone with all of the cheese.

Shanna Micko: All the cheese. We’ll go there and then we’ll go to SomiSomi ice cream. Sounds like a play date.

Laura Birek: Must sound like a fun play date. I think we should. Let’s get it on the books.

Shanna Micko: All right. That sounds good. But that’s it for me. Should we wrap things up?

Laura Birek: Yeah, I think it’s a good idea.

Shanna Micko: If you guys have a mom confession or anything else you want to share with us, except for tips on how Laura can stop biting her fingers, please reach out to us.

Laura Birek: I don’t need them.

Shanna Micko: We love hearing from you. Laura, where can everyone find us?

Laura Birek: We are on all the social media’s Instagram, Twitter, Facebook at BFP Podcast. We also have a website, bigfatpositivepodcast.com and we also have a Facebook community group. Just search for Big Fat Positive community and it’s a closed group. 

So you have to ask to join, but just click request to join. I will add you and you can get in on all the really great conversations we’re having in there. I’m loving our Facebook community group.

Shanna Micko: Me too. If you love our show, please rate and review us on whatever platform you listen. That’s super helpful and spread the word. If you know a pregnant person, a new parent, let them know about Big Fat Positive Podcast. It really, really helps when you share the love. Thank you.

Laura Birek: Big Fat Positive is produced by Shanna Micko, Laura Birek and Steve Yager. Thanks for listening, everyone. We will see you next week.

Shanna Micko: Bye.

Laura Birek: Bye.

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