Hiring Your First Non-Family Babysitter – Ep. 377
September 22, 2025
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In the special segment “Mom Wins!,” Laura and Shanna celebrate their recent parenting achievements, including surprising successes inside a hotel lobby, at a big-kid’s birthday party, in the presence of a claw machine and more! Also, Laura dives into a late-night crafting project that blows the minds of many children (and adults), and Shanna hires a non-family babysitter for the very first time. Finally, the moms share their BFPs and BFNs for the week. Shanna’s kids are 6.5 and 9.5 years old, and Laura’s kids are 6.5 years old and 4.5 years old.
Topics discussed in this episode:
-KPop Demon Hunters
-Making crafts on the Cricut
-Hiring babysitters
-Allowing self-expression in your children
-Managing your kids’ meltdowns
-Hiring food-delivery robots
-Finding time and space for hobbies when you’re a mom
Products, links, resources mentioned in this episode:
–KPop Demon Hunters Movie on Netflix
–“The Carpool Detectives: A True Story of Four Moms, Two Bodies, and One Mysterious Cold Case” by Chuck Hogan
Past BFP episodes mentioned in this episode:
–Ep. 350 (For the episode where Shanna talks about her family’s trip to Lake Arrowhead)
–Ep. 347 (For the episode where Shanna talks about taking Cece to an ice-skating party)
–Ep. 371 (For the episode where Laura talks about discovering food-delivery robots in her neighborhood)
–Ep. 19 (For the episode where Laura talks about spinning wool – before it made her nauseous)
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Episode Transcript
Shanna
Hi, welcome to Big Fat Positive with Shanna and Laura. On this week's episode, we have our weekly check-ins, we have our special segment, Mom Wins, where we celebrate some encounters with receptionists and robots, and we wrap it up with our weekly BFPs and BFNs. Let's get started. Hello, everyone! Welcome to Episode 377! Hi, Laura! Hello, Shanna! Hello! Why don't you give us your check-in for the week?
Laura
Okay, so my check-in involves you and your beautiful family.
We attended a very fun event with you guys and had a really good hangout this weekend because a few weeks ago, Steve messaged the group and was like, hey, everyone, would you guys want to go to a K-pop demon hunter sing along with us? There's one in Glendale. And at that point, we had watched K-pop Demon Hunters, and my boys were obsessed. And I was like, yes, sir, let's do it. It's funny because I told Corey about it, and he was like, oh, hopefully they're not sick of K-pop Demon Hunters by then. Like, hopefully they're not over it, you know, in a few weeks when the thing happens. Far from it. Jokes on Corey. Yeah. I would say we have tripled down on our K-pop demon hunters obsession over here. Same, same. So this was on a Sunday at like 10 a.m. The movie was playing around the corner from our house. So you guys were gonna like come over, we're gonna park and then walk over.
And the night before, at like 9 p.m., I had a thought. And that thought was I should do some crafting so that the kids have some themed t-shirts for the single album tomorrow.
Shanna
Amazing.
Laura
I didn't realize you came up with that at 9 p.m. Wow. It actually, I think it was 8 because Michael's closed at 9 and I got there before they closed. So it had to have been around 8. I got home around 9. Oh my gosh. after procuring four little black T-shirts and some holographic vinyl to iron on to the shirts. I went on Etsy and was able to find some SVG files. Some like SVGs are like scalable vector graphics. Some just files that go into my cricket, right? You're familiar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I whipped together two Huntrix shirts and two Saja Boyz shirts for my boys. and surprised your girls with them when you came for the screening. And oh boy, were they hits.
Shanna
Yes, they were so cool. These shirts are awesome. I maybe need you to make one for me. But yeah, the girls loved in that they all looked so cute in them. And we definitely need to share a photo on social so everyone can see.
Laura
Yeah. The four of them together in their K-pop Demon Hunter shirts were so cute. And the screening was so fun. We were in the very front row, which was a lot. Oh, boy. Yeah. It was immersive. Yeah. But it was so cute during the movie looking over and seeing Augie and Alan Cece just like singing along to the whole movie. And you know, your girls can read the subtitles. Augie is not there yet, but he was still singing along and having a grand old time. Yeah, he probably had most of it memorized the way these kids and their memories work. Oh, I mean, he's speaking Korean basically at this point because he'll just sing some of the songs back to me and he sings the Korean parts. And I'm just like, wow, OK. Nice. From, you know, ear. He's just singing it as though it were because it is just naturally part of the song. And I'm just like, OK. Oh, that's amazing.
But yeah, then we saw the movie, then we all went and had lunch at a very hot California pizza kitchen because their air conditioning was failing. That's right.
Shanna
Oh my gosh, that's right. It's so funny because when we walked in and went up to the host stand, I was like, oh, that's interesting. There's like a box fan here, huh? And didn't really register that there were about 15 all over the restaurant until like we sat down and ordered and then we're like, God, it's hot in here. I'm like, oh, there's a lot of fans. OK.
Laura
But at that point, we had committed like the kids were in their own little booth, which also was so adorable. and doing their little coloring pages and just chatting with each other. And we're like, well, we can't leave now. So we sweated through it. We did.
Shanna
It was fine. It was so cute to see the four of them in a booth together. It's like, ah, kids first dinner out together as a friend group is really what it looked like.
Laura
As long as we could get over the guilt we felt for the people sitting behind them. I know. It was OK. We were nearby. We kept on going. We were like, Augie, your elbows need to stay in your booth.
Shanna
Oh man it was so fun and man I just really loved that movie so much it was the first time I'd seen it beginning to end like and understood the story and how the songs fit in with the story and I was like choked up by the end like by the big climactic scene I was like oh my god this movie is amazing Um, so I'm an even bigger fan now that I was before.
Laura
I know me too. I've seen, I had seen the entire movie, but not pieced together. So I definitely was missing some context, but then this was the first time I was able to watch it all the way through. Sebastian was like crawling all over me for most of the movie, but I think I got the gist. But yeah, it's just it really is such a good movie. I'm so happy that it's getting recognized and is such a big cultural phenomenon because it deserves it in my opinion. Yes. And it's really bringing people together. Like it's just it's just so fun. I love it. So yes, all together a very, very fun day. I agree. So that's my check in.
Shanna
Shanna what do you have to check in about since I just kind of stole half of half of your weekend check in nothing nothing else happened all week that was the only thing just kidding well this week at my kids school was back to school night which is when parents can come Meet the teacher see a little presentation about what's gonna happen in fourth grade and first grade in my kids case and as usual they're like no kids allowed. What is that it's just truly. Untenable. It's so hard. I mean, I get it because I think it would be a massive distraction and it is nice to just have adults in there so that you can really focus on what the teacher is saying and everything. But it does make it hard. Like in the past several years, I was the only person who went back to school night and Steve stayed home with the kids.
Well, this year we mixed it up a little bit because if you remember a couple episodes ago, it was like I volunteered at the kids cast party for their summer camp and I met this counselor who was like, oh my god, I love your girls. I would babysit for free if you want me to. And I was like, oh, maybe we should contact her and see if she can babysit that night. And then we can go and focus on back to school night and the girls will be excited, I think, because they really love this counselor. So I messaged her, I was like, hey, are you available on Wednesday night? And she was like, yes, oh my gosh, I would love to. And I told Elle, hey, Claudia, we'll call her Claudia for the podcast. We'll be babysitting you guys on Wednesday night while we go to back to school night. And she paused, you know, that kind of quiet moment when you can see your kids brain processing what you just said.
I'm like, oh, I don't know, what is she going to think about this? And then her mouth opened, she's like, oh my God.
ran back to CECE's room and was like, Claudia's gonna babysit us. And they started screaming in joy, jumping up and down, chanting her name, Claudia, Claudia. So I was like, okay, I think they're excited about this.
Laura
What was your first clue?
Shanna
Yeah, I don't know. So I told Claudia how excited they were. She's like, oh my heart, I'm so excited. And so it was a really fun opportunity for the girls to have their first official out of family babysitter that we've hired. Because of course I was not going to have Claudia do it for free even though she kindly offered. But yeah, so we tried it out. She came over. She helped the kids do homework. She made them dinner, relaxed and watched some TV with them, got them ready for bed. It was amazing.
Laura
I am a big fan of having a babysitter do dinner and bedtime. We have been having a former pre-school teacher from Augustine Sebastian's preschool do babysitting for us here and there when my mom's not in town. And it's just like they get the job done better than a grandma. No offense to the grandmas. The grandmas do amazing things, but the grandmas are easily manipulated. You know what I mean? Like the grandmas, their love for the kids is easily manipulated into like more screen time. later nights and Sherry, I'm not really talking about you. I'm talking about my mom in case you're listening.
And my mom will agree. She knows that she's not very good at getting them to bed on time. But a babysitter, you leave, you come back and they're like, oh, yeah, the kids were in bed. Like, and they say they were in bed like 15 minutes earlier than you usually get them in bed. You're just like, what magic is this?
Shanna
Yeah. And with the counselor and a preschool teacher, I'm sure there's already that sense of authority, right? Claudia is an authority figure already for my girls. So. That was perfect. We had hired her till about 7.30. But the back to school night ended at like 6.30. And Steve and I were like, oh man, we got to make the most of this time. What do we do? Let's go on a date. I was like, you know what? We really need some groceries. So we went on a date to Trader Joe's. Oh man.
I know.
Shanna
That could have been so much better. But when we got home, the girls were not in bed. We didn't task Claudia with that. But they were ready for bed, brushed, jammies, everything. And they were doing their nails. She was painting their nails. And they were having a little spa day. It was so sweet. It was really cute, wonderful. Oh, and the back to school night was great too. My kids' teachers are lovely. And I think first and fourth grade will just go swimmingly. Awesome. Well, what a great check in. Yeah. All right. Well, that's it for me. Shall we move on to our special segment? Yes, we should.
Laura
We are back and our special segment this week is Mom Wins, where Shanna and I share some big wins we've had recently in our parenting lives. Shanna, you are up first. Do you have a mom win to share with us? Yeah, yeah, I do.
Shanna
Okay, this little story happened actually back when my family went up to Lake Arrowhead in February. If you remember that trip, we went up to play in the snow and all of that. And it's less about like something I did that was a success. And it's more like, I feel like it's a testament to how I have raised my kids, maybe. Like it makes me feel good about how I've raised my kids, that my kids acted a certain way in this situation. Does that make sense?
Laura
Yeah, absolutely. Something that reflects well on your parenting.
Shanna
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So we got up to Lake Arrowhead pretty early in the day, maybe like 11, maybe noon, and we went to our inn. It was like an inn in Cabins in Lake Arrowhead. You know, whenever we get in early somewhere, we usually like to ask if we can do an early check-in. So we get to this inn and we go into the check-in reception area slash restaurant area. It's very nice, cute, little rustic inn. And a woman was working there. I assumed she was like the manager, assistant manager or something, and nobody else was in the place whatsoever. And we walk in, she's like, hello. And we're like, oh, hi. Steve was like, we're here just, you know, early wondering if we might be able to check in a little early and put our stuff in our room if that's available. She's like, nope, that's not available. Nope, you'll have to come back at check-in time, which was like four, right?
Which was several hours away. That's fine. That's what we signed up for. It's like, okay, Cece out of nowhere is like, I just lost my tooth to this woman. Very chatty. Cece is very cute and chatty, right? And the woman was like, oh yeah. And she's like, yeah, I lost this tooth. And then I lost the other tooth. And then the tooth fairy came and she just starts this whole conversation with this woman like, you need to know about my teeth and what's going on with me. And Elle Cheim said, she's like, oh yeah, when I lost my teeth, I got $5. And the next thing I knew, me and Steve are like not a part of this at all. It's my two daughters and this like 65 year old proprietor of this inn just talking about teeth and whatever they're going off on this little conversation. And after about five minutes of this, the manager looks up at Steve and she goes, you know what? What's your last name?
And he says, yeah, girl. She's like, all right. And she goes over to her computer and looks up our reservation. She's like, you know what? We do have a cabin ready for you. You know what? Why don't you guys go on up to number seven? And I was like, what? Oh my god, my two children charmed this lady with their sweet little personalities. And we got our early check and they just turned the tide on that whole situation. It was so cool.
Laura
Oh my gosh. So funny. It's also like. I get it, their rules are the rules and that's how things work and they can't just let everyone go into rooms early because then they have to let everyone go into rooms early and blah, blah, blah. But also you're like, you didn't want to make the exception when you saw that we were people with young children. But once you were charmed by the young children, it was okay. Like, I don't know. It just like makes me roll my eyes, but I'm so glad your kids unlocked that for you.
Shanna
Yeah. Yeah. It was so funny. And I mean, the reason it's a mom win is because obviously it's like my kids win. But as a mom, I'm like, I try to raise them to be friendly, outgoing, feel confident, you know, expressing themselves to people and talking to people and strangers. And I think it's so cool that they can do that. And I don't know. I just thought that was really cool. So I'm taking a little bit of that win for myself because it made me feel proud. that I have children who can just engage with adults in a nice way.
Laura
Yeah, I don't know. That's it. It's as simple as that. And they have enough self-confidence that they feel like an adult would be interested in what they have to say. You know, it just goes to show that you and Steve have always been interested in what they have to say and have never made it feel like what they're talking about is an interesting. And so they've internalized that what I have to say is interesting, so I must share it with everyone. But that's good, right? They've never been shamed for sharing their feelings or their thoughts.
Shanna
Yeah. And that truly is something I value as a person and as a parent. I think that self-expression is a wonderful thing. And I want to encourage my kids to do it. So it was nice to see that out in the wild. That's so nice.
Laura
Yeah. But what about you, Laura? Do you have a mom win for us? I do. So mine is back on the K-pop demon hunter's bandwagon. So as I discussed in the check-in, I had a late night hankering for some cricketing or for some shirt making. And we made the shirts and they were really cute. And that day that we all hung out and had lunch and saw the movie and all that stuff, Augie actually had been invited to be a plus one for his best friend at school's sister's birthday party. Let me see if I'm explaining that properly. So his best friend from school's sister. was having a birthday party at their house and his best friend was allowed to invite one friend to like be with him. So he wouldn't just be like the little brother tagging along, right? Right, that's nice. It's nice, just super nice. And so Augie was invited and he was really excited to go.
It was so funny because like he really did not want the play date with Elle and CeCe'd and like I think they all were just having so much fun. Mm-hmm, but you guys had somewhere to go. I think you had plans and then I was like, oh, but we got to go to so-and-so's sister's birthday party and that was able to like break the spell at least like it was that appealing that he was like, oh, okay Yeah, you know, this is important, but so is that so okay. See you guys later So we go to this birthday party and I take him, just me and him. And it's a bunch of fourth graders, right? A bunch of fourth grade girls. And then he and his little buddy are in first grade. And we were a little bit late and we're walking in and a bunch of the other kids were already there. And they're all out front of the apartment, like throwing water balloons and just doing general water play.
And as we walked up, everyone stopped and turned and like it was like the Red Sea parting as Augie and I walked in because they were all like, oh my God, where did you get that shirt? Your shirt is so cool. Oh my God. It was just a chorus of fourth grade girls just like oohing and eyeing over his Saja Boyz shirt. Oh my God, that's amazing. From the second he walked in the party, people were following him around because of it, right? They were all, all in because as of this recording, there's not a lot of merch available for K-pop demon hunters, right? Like I, you'd think it would be out, but I'm sure that's coming, right? Like I'm sure it's coming down the pike, but right now there's not a lot of merch available. So I've never seen anyone in a Huntrix or a Saja Boys shirt until I made them for the kids. Yeah. You know, he was just like the talk of the party from the moment he walked in.
And obviously, that's a win for him. But you know, it's a win for me, too, because I was like, oh, my gosh.
I'm not a regular mom. I'm a cool mom.
Shanna
So cool. Did Augie jump to telling everyone my mom made this? Or did you have to be like, oh, oh, I'm the one who made that shirt? You know what I mean? Like, did you have to self promote?
Laura
No, thankfully, well, it's so funny, because he was completely taken by surprise by this. I think he had forgotten, he was even wearing the shirt, you know? And he was just sort of like looking at these girls like, what are they all? Oh yeah, that shirt. And so they're like, oh my gosh, where did you get that shirt? That shirt is so cool. Oh my gosh, can I see it? And they're like, where'd you get it? And he was like, oh, my mom made it. You know, like just very like nonchalant under his breath. They're like, what? You made it? Oh my gosh. That was just like, oh yeah, yeah. tossing my hair. Just I just I whipped it together last night, you know. Yeah. With my tools. No big deal. No big deal. I'm not I'm not basking in this every moment like this is a salve to my ego.
Shanna
Oh, they are so cool. I mean, maybe you should just start taking orders. So I have taken an order for a friend of mine.
Laura
I'm not like I'm not making a profit off of them. I was like, I don't want to become like a cottage industry about this. Like I don't want to start making a bunch of these, but I'll make three more for your three kids, you know, and you just pay me what the materials cost or whatever. So I've got those coming. But yeah, it was a it was a big win for sure. Yeah, that's exciting. But yes, that was my big mom win for this weekend for sure. And that's the first one I'm going to share on this episode. But Shanna, it's your turn.
Shanna
I do have another mom win. And this mom win takes place at the ice skating birthday party. I took CC2 a couple months back. Maybe you remember me mentioning this ice skating party on a previous episode.
Laura
I vaguely remember. I feel like she was underdressed and had to wear your jacket or something.
Shanna
Oh, yeah, that's right. Yes, yes, yes. I did not have the cold weather attire for this party. Yeah, so the party itself was great. It was very fun. But our exit from the party is really where the mom win comes in. Oh, okay. But first of all, I do want to say I think I think a sneaky little mom win here is that I learned from my past mistake when I tried to take both girls by myself roller skating to a roller skating party. When the ice skating party came up, I was like, no, I'm taking one kid. I'm not taking two kids who can't ice skate.
Laura
So I learned from my past mistakes. That was good. I'm learning from your past mistakes, too, because there's a skate night coming up with Augie and Sebastian's school. And I was going to sign us all up for it. And then Corey was like, oh, I'm supposed to go to poker that night. I was like, can you go after the skate night? Because there's no way in hell I'm taking both kids by myself to learn how to roller skate. So thank you for your service.
Shanna
Good. I'm so glad that was useful for somebody. Good. But learning from my past mistakes kind of was the theme of this day because as the parties ended and people were starting to leave, CECE took off her ice skates and then realized that there was a claw machine there at the ice skating place.
So she started getting very interested in this claw machine. And everyone else is taking off their skates and returning them. You know, all the kids are being very helpful. I'm like, Sissy, we need to go return the skates to the skate desk or whatever that thing is called. And she was like, no, I don't want to return my skates. Like she was just zeroed in on this claw machine. And she's like, I want to play the claw machine. Can I play the claw machine? And I didn't appreciate that she wasn't cooperative with helping with the skates, you know? So I didn't want to be like, oh, sure, let me just reward you by letting you play the claw machine. I was like, hey, after you return the skates with me, I'll give you a dollar and you can play the claw machine. For some reason, she was just like, oh, hell no. I'm not doing that. She's like, I don't want to turn the skates.
And I'm like, OK, then I'm not going to give you a dollar to play the claw machine. And boom, meltdown, right? At that point, she was absolutely furious that she couldn't do the claw machine, would not help return skates, would not put her shoes on, on the floor. And you know, Laura and our listeners know I have a history with CECE of this type of intense meltdown situation, especially out in public and leaving things. Stuff like this has been very hard. We haven't had one of these in a while. I was like, oh my gosh, here we go again. And all her little friends are staring at her wide-eyed as she's throwing a fit on the floor and looking at me like, are you going to do anything about that? And I, having learned from past mistakes, I'm just like, hmm. like, I can't do anything. I can't help her because that escalates things.
I can't put any boundaries at that point because that escalates things. I just know with her I have to wait it out. And it's embarrassing, right? It's embarrassing to not intervene when your kid is acting like that and your, her friends and the parents are walking by kind of like anything. And one little girl was like, what's wrong with her? I was like, well, she's having a hard time leaving and hard time helping put the skates away. And It was epic. Every single person from the party left, the employees were cleaning up the party. I think they cleaned up the entire party. And I just held firm with letting her have that tantrum and those emotions. In the past, when she was younger and smaller, I have carried her out of places, green meaning and kicking. Because I'm embarrassed or I just need to get her out of there or whatever.
And it's like she's six now she's big she's heavy and I don't want to hurt myself you know by doing that so that's not what we're doing we're gonna sit and wait it out. Yeah for sure so after about twenty thirty minutes of her just melting down about this situation she finally kind of got it out of her. Slow down a little bit. I was able to convince her to help me return the skates we moved slowly into like the waiting area of the ice skating rink and you know it was a process. It was a slow process. I had to have patience. I had to have so much willpower in this moment to just wait it out and let her have these feelings and let her be ready to leave. And luckily I had time in the day to do that, right? Like a lot of times you feel the pressure, because it's like, oh my God, I gotta go somewhere else. I gotta do something. But I had the time.
Laura
Or like they literally have to go to school.
Shanna
Like you gotta go to school. Yes, exactly. So that always adds to the anxiety. But in this case, I was able to just be patient and we were able to leave without me carrying her, without her screaming and crying, you know, without any of it. Like we were able to leave calmly. So working through that, I felt so successful.
Laura
Yeah. Very successful. How did she feel after like, do you think she gets embarrassed by any of this or does she not care?
Shanna
I think she's still young enough that she doesn't care. I don't think she even really registered like her friends looking at her and stuff because she was so thick in the throes of it that it's almost like, I don't know, like her mind is somewhere else. So I don't think that that registered. And she seemed calm. She was a little upset that, you know, we had to leave. But she seemed to bounce back pretty well, like I think we got in the car and put on a song that she loves and then singing along, you know, on the way home.
Laura
So. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Gosh, it's so hard to just stick to your boundary and not escalate things. It feels impossible. So that's definitely a mom win on your part. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Shanna
Oh, yeah, that's my second mom. When do you have another one for us?
Laura
I do. I have a very quick one. Oh, OK. All right. So as you know, my kids have been obsessed with the delivery robots in our neighborhood. Oh, yes. Yes. And we've talked about seeing them, and I think you guys saw some when we were walking to lunch and stuff, and they're just, they're funny. They're these funny little things, and they're very cute. And there was one day where my kids were having a play date, actually with the same friend who Augie went to the sister's birthday party at. And as we walked out, there was a delivery robot waiting to like deliver something, and they all took pictures by it. They just think they're so funny. Well, my mom win is that I successfully got a delivery robot to deliver some food for us this week.
Shanna
Yes. Did you strategize with Amy to get the intel on which restaurant to order from? 100%. I was like a triangulating with radar.
Laura
Yeah, I was like, Amy, we need to order some food. It was not for the kids. It was for me and my mom and Corey and I and stuff. So we could order from pretty much anywhere. It's all like they had to have chicken nuggets. So we're like, where do we order where we're most likely to get a robot and choose? OK, here's my observation. She's like, they're mostly hanging out along brand, which is like the main drag in downtown Glendale. And she's like, you know, they're mostly around this intersection. And I've noticed that if you order from this one Thai restaurant, they almost always put it in a delivery robot. And I was like, oh, good. That was one of the options. Like this is a Thai restaurant we really like. It's called Cozy Corner for anyone who's interested.
And so we were like, okay, we're going to take a leap and just try to order from Cozy Quarter, which by the way, it's silly because we could have driven to go get the food. But we were like, we want a robot. And they tell you, like, you might get an autonomous vehicle. If you get an autonomous vehicle, you won't have to pay tip, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yes, please. Like, how can you say you want an autonomous vehicle? Yeah. So anyway, we order and then we were holding our breath. And then a couple of minutes later, it says, you've been assigned an autonomous vehicle. And we're just like, oh, my God. Yes. Amazing. Did it have a name? It had a name. And its name was the same name as one of Augie's best friends. Like what? Shit, the same. It had the same real name as the kid we call Theo on the show. Oh my gosh. And that's one of the names that Augie can read, right?
Like, you know, he's working on reading, but he knows his friend's names, right? He knows how to write them. And so as it came down, you know, it has the name plastered on it and on the screen and stuff. And I was like, Augie, look what it's called. And it took him a second and he was like, oh my gosh, that's Theo's name. And like, we had to take a picture to send to Theo's family. Oh, that is awesome. So it was very fun to see it wobble in down the street.
And our food was very hot, I have to say. It worked out very well.
Shanna
Yeah, I was going to ask.
Laura
Nice. Yeah, so very little joys. But yes, I strategized on how to get our delivery robot and it worked. Yay, now you can put that skill on your LinkedIn profile.
Shanna
Yeah, sure.
Laura
But that is it for my mom wins. Do you think we should move on to our BFPs and BFNs? Let's do it.
Shanna
We're back when we wrap up every episode with our big fat positives or big fat negatives of the week. Laura, you're up first. What you got for us? I have a BFP.
Laura
All right. Okay. So my BFP is related to all the other segments in that it's related to crafting. Yay. Basically, my BFP is that I am feeling like I'm really reconnecting with crafting like for the first time really since I've had kids. You know, crafting used to be such an important part of my life. I would go nowhere like without some knitting project or always have like a quilting project and always have something going on. But it became really hard to do after I had Augie. And like, as you remember, I did a lot of spinning yarn when I was pregnant with Augie until my SPD pain kind of got in the way, and it couldn't really do the treadling anymore. And then when I tried to get my spinning wheel back out after having Augie, it triggered my nausea because it reminded me of first time after nausea.
But this week, I decided, screw it, I need to get back on that horse and I got my spinning wheel out and I got my loom out and I cleaned everything up and got it all set up and tried out some spinning and lo and behold, I can spin again. Yay, it only took seven years.
Shanna
Yeah.
Laura
So I'm so excited about that. And I've kind of decided to sort of take up space with it. I feel like the other thing is that I've been a bit reticent to like leave my crafts around because A, the kids will get into it and B, like I'm like, oh, this is my project. I don't want it to clutter up the space. And that was valid when the kids were younger and we were in a much, much smaller house. But now we're in this big ass house with all this square footage. Like, what am I trying to like, like their shit takes up so much space like I can carve out a little corner for my spinning wheel my loom right absolutely and also they're old enough now that even if they sort of get interested in them like they're not going to destroy my equipment you know right. So as long as I'm not leaving really sharp things out, you know, like sewing scissors, I feel okay.
So and contrary to popular belief, a yarn spinning wheel does not have like a thing you can prick your finger on like Sleeping Beauty did. That must be like an old fashioned time. There's no sharp thing at the top of it, not mine at least.
Shanna
Okay, well, that's good. That's it's safe for your children.
Laura
Exactly. So yes. So my BFB is just that I'm feeling like re-invigorated and reconnected with my crafting. I feel like I can take up space with it. You know, I didn't feel like, oh, this is I should be doing something else instead of making these shirts for tomorrow. It's like, no, you know what? This is my free time. I get to do fun things and make things if I want to. So yeah.
Shanna
Yes, good for you. And when we were over at your house, my girls saw your spinning wheel in your loom and got very interested in them. And we're like, oh, can we see how this works? And you were teaching CeCe how to weave, making this really cute little towel thing and showing Elle how to spin the yarn. And when we got home, we were talking about it. CeCe was using her little washcloth that you gave her that you guys made. And Elle was like, oh, I want to make one of those. Like, I really want to do it. And I was like, Well, we should set something up because, you know, Laura really loves doing that kind of stuff and Laura really loves you. So I bet that, you know, she would love to do that kind of thing with you. And she goes, I really love doing that kind of stuff. And I really love Laura too.
Laura
So, yes. That's so sweet. I will do that in a heartbeat. I feel like we have to do it away from Augie because they'll just run off. Like the two of them will just run off and play. I feel like I need to have like a one-on-one date with Elle. To do some weaving. But seriously, anytime. I would love that. Awesome. But yeah, that's my BFP. Now it's your turn. Do you have a BFP or a BFN, Shanna? I have a BFP. Yay.
Shanna
Yay. I recently read a book that I really enjoyed and wanted to mention on the podcast. Always love a book, Rec. Okay. It was an audiobook that I listened to. It's called The Carpool Detectives, and it's about a group of four moms who unravel a 15-year-old cold case murder. And it's a true story. It's a true story about four moms here in Los Angeles who are amateur detectives and came together to solve this cold case murder of a couple, like a 60-year-old couple who died in their car falling off of a cliff in like the Los Angeles National Forest, like up the two freeway, like up in that region, right?
Laura
Oh yeah, the Angeles Crest Highway, yeah. That's like my biggest fear is falling off one of the side of that. Every time I drive up there, I'm like, ooh, this is pretty. Really? There's some steep cliffs, for sure.
Shanna
For sure.
Laura
Oh my gosh.
Shanna
Okay, when did this incident happen? The incident itself happened quite a while ago, like 20 years ago. But one of these moms came across it recently, came across the story and was intrigued by it. Because on the surface, these deaths seem accidental or whatever, like they accidentally drove off the cliff. But evidence pointed to it being a murder. And she's like, how? Why? What? And what I really loved about the book, aside from that it's about moms doing something really cool, is that it's mostly set during the pandemic. And I've resisted listening to any pandemic related content just because, you know, this is a stressful time for all of us. But I loved the way that it was the backdrop to this story because it was so relatable.
Being a mom, parenting during the pandemic, understanding how that backdrop allowed these moms some time and access to people who weren't busy anymore because the pandemic was happening and everyone was on stay at home orders. It all really made sense and was relatable on a level that I found very interesting. And I love a murder mystery. So it was a fabulous book and I love it. Nice. OK, remind us the name of it and who wrote it. It's called The Carpool Detectives, a true story of four moms, two bodies, and one mysterious cold case. And it's written by Chuck Hogan. Amazing. OK, I'm going to add that to my cue right away. Yeah. Yeah, that's it for me, and I think that's it for our show. Sure is. Listeners, thank you so much for being a part of our BFP community. If you want to help us out, please could you do us a favor and head on over to Apple Podcasts or Spotify, wherever you listen.
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Laura
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Shanna
Our show is produced by Laura Birek, Shanna Micko, and Steve Yager. Thanks for listening, everyone. Have a big, fat, positive week. Bye! Bye!

