Ep. 24: Shocking Facts About Pregnancy and Newborns (31 and 35 Weeks Pregnant)

December 17, 2018

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In the special segment “Stump the Preggo,” Shanna and Laura duel it out in a shocking and hilarious round of the pregnancy trivia game, diving into the topics of popular baby names, strange facts about newborns, the most babies born to one woman and more. Also, Shanna reports on how her third-trimester pregnancy cravings have gotten more intense, and Laura talks about the stress of meeting work deadlines while in the third trimester. Finally, the moms-to-be reveal their BFPs and BFNs for the week. Laura is 31 weeks pregnant, and Shanna is 35 weeks pregnant.

Topics discussed in this episode:

-Week 31 of pregnancy

-Week 35 of pregnancy

-Having strong sugar cravings in the third trimester

-Working while pregnant

-Finding out your baby is breech

-Popular baby names

-Newborns are born without which body part?

-Odd ways that animals nurse their young

-The heaviest baby ever born

-The most number of babies a woman has birthed in her lifetime

-The number of babies born around the world per minute

-Getting a new driver’s license picture while pregnant

-Pubic symphysis pain in pregnancy

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Episode Transcript

Laura Birek: Hi. Welcome to Big Fat Positive. This week we have our weekly check-ins, we have our special segment, Stump the Preggo, where we can see can Laura take the lead over Shanna in our ongoing trivia battle and we have our BFPs and BFNs for the week. Let’s get to it.


Laura Birek: Hi. Welcome to the show, everyone. This is episode 24.

Shanna Micko: Hi.

Laura Birek: We’re going to get right to it. Let’s do our weekly check-in. Shanna, where are you at this week? What are you doing?

Shanna Micko: I am week 35 and I don’t know if anyone remembers last week I mentioned my husband went out and got me some fix ins for ice cream sundaes.

Laura Birek: Yes.

Shanna Micko: That craving has intensified dramatically. I’m at home, because I’m working from home. I’m literally eating two ice cream sundaes a day and usually the first one is at like 10:00 a.m. It’s like second breakfast. I’m just like, there’s just something magnetic about the freezer. I’m just like a zombie walking to it, opening it, taking out cookies and cream ice cream and my sugar cravings are through the roof. It’s like the only thing I want to eat is sugar and especially these sundaes. It’s wild. The other one is at night right before bed.

Laura Birek: Sounds like you’re living your best life to me. Call Oprah.

Shanna Micko: It is good. Yeah, I’m having aha moments twice a day with my hot fudge and Cool Whip. I don’t have too many complaints. I kind of feel like probably I’m going to pack on extra pound or two here at the tail end, because of all these sundaes and sweets, but in the grand scheme of things, I think my mental happiness is probably more important and my mental happiness is elevated tremendously when I’m indulging in these things.

Laura Birek: I am all for that. I think sugar is a fantastic drug when you use it properly. We’re not allowed to ibuprofen. So for fucks sake, can we have some ice cream? I’m in full support of the ice cream habit. I’ve also been craving ice cream. It comes and goes though. It hasn’t been as intense as it sounds like yours is, but I always have to have some in the fridge now and I was never that person who had sweets around. I’m not really usually a sweets person.

Shanna Micko: It’s interesting my relationship with sweets has been very strange this pregnancy. In the first trimester, I couldn’t eat sugar because it would make me so nauseous. There was a direct correlation and then in the second trimester, I couldn’t eat sugar because it would give me really bad headaches.

Laura Birek: I remember you talked about that.

Shanna Micko: Those are all gone now. I think Steve is still holding onto the memory of it making me feel so bad, because the other day he’s like, “Are you okay eating this stuff?” I’m like, “Yeah, why?” Because nothing is happening to me. I’m just feeling good. So I’m loving it.

Laura Birek: Run with it. You’ve got four more weeks. Do what you need to survive in the next four weeks.

Shanna Micko: Exactly. I can just feel the smile on my face as I’m talking about ice cream sundaes.

Laura Birek: I might have to go out and get some ice cream. There’s this place down the street from me called the Fair Oaks Pharmacy and Soda Fountain. Have I ever taken you there?

Shanna Micko: Ooh, no that sounds amazing.

Laura Birek: Oh my God, if you are up for it one of these days and feel like trekking out to Pasadena, it’s like over a hundred years old pharmacy and soda fountain.

Shanna Micko: Cool.

Laura Birek: They do their whole soda jerk thing where they have ice cream and they’ll make you root beer floats and the ice cream sundaes are bananas. They have banana splits. That’s not what I mean. But they’re so good and they’re so huge. 

It’s a little bit of a trek walking when you’re pregnant, but it is a two minute drive and I’ve got to tell you it is so hard not to go get milkshakes every day. I might have to go get a milkshake today. That sounds so good. I might do it.

Shanna Micko: That’s so good.

Laura Birek: What a milkshake!

Shanna Micko: Believe it or not, that’s the extent of my check-in.

Laura Birek: Hey, I’ll take it. That’s good. Love that ice cream.

Shanna Micko: What about you?

Laura Birek: Mine’s not as fun. There was one really fun thing this week, which is that my friend Amanda came to town to visit.

Shanna Micko: Cool.

Laura Birek: You know Amanda. We all went to grad school together and Amanda lived in LA for grad school and then I actually, 11 years ago drove with her when she moved out to New York and we drove her car across the country and it was a super fun lady’s trip. We were both single, but of course, we were in New Orleans for St. Patrick’s Day at the time and we’re like, “We’re two single ladies on the town in New Orleans on a road trip.” We’d spent the whole time just hanging out with each other. We didn’t meet any guys, but it was still very fun and that was a fun trip and then she’s actually just recently moved to Denver. I know she listens to the show sometimes. So hi, Amanda, if you’re listening.

Shanna Micko: Hi.

Laura Birek: I miss you already. She came out to visit and that was so nice, because I think it’s probably going to be the last visitor we have before the baby comes. We only live in a two bedroom house as I’ve mentioned and the futon may or may not be in the baby’s room, but it’s not like we’re going to have guests sleeping on the futon with the crib. So she got to be the last one and it was really fun to have her here and it was a really great excuse to ignore my work, which is the rest of the check-in.

Shanna Micko: This work has been plaguing you for weeks now, man. When is it going to end?

Laura Birek: It’s a big project. I’m a web developer. That’s my main day job and I get these big projects. Maybe like three, four times a year we have these big site launches. I’ll launch little sites here and there or help other people fix out sites here and there. But couple times a year, I work with this team and we launch these gigantic sites like hundreds of pages, complete re-design from top to bottom, really, really complex stuff. It’s me and one other guy sometimes who helps me with the development. I do all the coding and it’s a lot and it’s fun. It can be interesting work, but this one has just been really, really hard for me, because I’m fucking in my third trimester. The great thing is that the guy who is my sort of main contractor, he sort of runs an agency and contracts me out, he had a baby just a couple months ago. So he gets it. The project manager I’m working with is also pregnant, so we’re all like we’re all in it together and we’re all like, what are we doing? So I have one more week and I hand it off to the client and there’s been delays. They’re late getting us content. It’s always like that, but we are expected to hit our deadlines too. I want to hit the deadlines, because I’m not going to want to work that much later. So I’m kind of cramming to fit everything in in less time and so next week I hand it off for the client to review. I’ll have a little bit of a break and they take about a week to review it and then come back with their notes and then hopefully, it’ll launch early December. Again, we’re recording this in the past, listeners. Hopefully, it’ll all go smoothly and the plan is to take my “maternity leave” about a month before my due date. My due date is January 12th and the idea is for my last day to be December 11th.

Shanna Micko: Getting close.

Laura Birek: I’m really trying not to burn out and it’s so hard to focus and I’m trying to do a good job for my clients and it’s also very mentally taxing. You’re doing all this coding. Some of this stuff is stuff I’ve done before, but some of it, I have to come up from scratch and you’re just like, oh God, is my pregnancy brain making this harder?

Shanna Micko: No doubt.

Laura Birek: Anyway, work is kind of bumming me out. There was a day Corey came home last week from work and he was like, “You sound stuffy,” and I was like, “No, I’ve just been crying, because I don’t know how is this going to go and how I’m going to get it all done.”

Shanna Micko: Oh my God.

Laura Birek: But he’s good. He makes me dinner.

Shanna Micko: That’s nice.

Laura Birek: Then the other very quick update is that I went to the doctor again this week and I’m 31 weeks. I don’t think I mentioned that at the beginning and my doctor says my baby is breach, which is not something I’m supposed to be concerned about yet supposedly.

Shanna Micko: Okay. Apparently, there’s still turnaround, right?

Laura Birek: Plenty of time supposedly and I can totally tell. Now that I know where from the sonogram, I can feel his head now and it’s like right up under my ribs, so we’ll see anyway.

Shanna Micko: Oh my gosh, that explains those kicks and jabs you were talking about last week that make you sit upright in bed.

Laura Birek: No, shit.

Shanna Micko: Is it butting you?

Laura Birek: You were saying you’re getting out breath. I’m also getting out of breath these days and I think it’s because he’s like, let me just settle in right next to your lungs. You don’t need these. Do you?

Shanna Micko: It’s like a nice cushy body pillow.

Laura Birek: It just lures him to sleep anyway. So that’s my week.

Shanna Micko: Sweet.


Shanna Micko: Our next segment is one of my favorites, Stump the Preggo, where Laura and I have come up with pregnancy related trivia questions for each other to try to stump one another.

Laura Birek: You’re winning, by the way.

Shanna Micko: I won the last round.

Laura Birek: Yes, you did.

Shanna Micko: This is our second round, so maybe we’ll tie it up or I don’t know. Let’s see.

Laura Birek: Lots of pressure.

Shanna Micko: Who’s going to go first?

Laura Birek: I guess I’m going to go first.

Shanna Micko: Okay.

Laura Birek: Yes, I’ll go first. Ready?

Shanna Micko: I’m ready to focus.

Laura Birek: According to babycenter.com, which of these names was not one of the top 100 baby names of 2018.

Shanna Micko: Ooh, I feel like I’m good at baby names. I think I got this.

Laura Birek: They just released their 2018 stats. You ready? Which one of these is not one of the top a hundred: Paisley, Cole or Zane?

Shanna Micko: The first one’s a girl’s name and the other two are boys?

Laura Birek: Yeah, I think traditionally on the list.

Shanna Micko: So is it top 100 together or is it top 100 girls, boys?

Laura Birek: No, I’m sorry. I’m gender swapping. It’s top 100 in either girls or boys, so technically the top 200, I guess.

Shanna Micko: Got you.

Laura Birek: Do you want me to read them again?

Shanna Micko: No, Paisley, Cole, C-O-L-E?

Laura Birek: C-O-L-E or Zane, Z-A-N-E.

Shanna Micko: Zane is a wacky name, but I can see people picking that. I feel like maybe Paisley is falling out of fashion. Maybe it was a little more popular in the nineties or early two thousands and Cole feels like it’s a name that would like hang steady. So I’m going to say Paisley.

Laura Birek: Buzz.

Shanna Micko: No.

Laura Birek: It was Cole.

Shanna Micko: Really?

Laura Birek: Let’s see. Paisley was in 41st place for girls, Zane was in 65th place for boys and Cole is not on the list. Nowhere to be found. I mean top 100.

Shanna Micko: It could be 101 for all we know.

Laura Birek: That is true. Could be, because it’s not on the list.

Shanna Micko: Nope.

Laura Birek: All right. You got one for me? So zero for Shanna.

Shanna Micko: Okay. The world’s most prolific mother gave birth to how many children during her life: human mother.

Laura Birek: Good clarification.

Shanna Micko: Not rabbit. 21, 34, 69.

Laura Birek: Oh, boy. I got to do some math here. So if you’re pregnant just back to back, 10 months is your pregnancy.

Shanna Micko: Technically, nine, but you can throw that extra one in there to make people feel bad.

Laura Birek: It’s 40 weeks, right?

Shanna Micko: Yeah, months don’t have four weeks exactly.

Laura Birek: That’s true.

Shanna Micko: It’s a point of contention for me, but we’re getting off track.

Laura Birek: Definitely off topic. Let’s say 40 weeks. So I’m just doing a little quick math here. Are calculators allowed?

Shanna Micko: Sure.

Laura Birek: This is a good question trivia. Sometimes you can never have out. 40 times 21 is 840 weeks divided by 52 weeks a year. So that’s 16 straight years of being pregnant. That’s a lot. 40 times 34 is 1360 weeks divided by 52. 

That’s 26 years of being pregnant. Oh God, I don’t want any of these to be right.

Shanna Micko: I know.

Laura Birek: Where’s none of the above? 69, that seems like a lot. I’m not taking into account multiples, Shanna. Oof, well, anyway. Let’s see. 69 times 40, 2760 divided by 52. So that’s 53 years of being pregnant. I think even with multiples if they’re all twins, that’s still 26 years of being pregnant. That seems like a lot. You start your period at like 13 to 40. I think I’m going to go with 34, b.

Shanna Micko: Buzz.

Laura Birek: Damn it! What was it?

Shanna Micko: 69.

Laura Birek: What? How? Tell me more.

Shanna Micko: In the 1700s, there was a Russian woman named Mrs. Vassilyev who had 27 pregnancies with multiples, but here’s the thing. She gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets and four sets of quadruplets.

Laura Birek: What? She lived?

Shanna Micko: Apparently, she lived till about 76 years old and of all those children, I think only two didn’t survive.

Laura Birek: Wow.

Shanna Micko: So they survived and the records back then are a little hazy, but the Guinness Book of World Records has corroborated this on many levels and they say, even though it does sound a little bit crazy, it’s very likely she could have had a condition where she hyper ovulated.

Laura Birek: Sure.

Shanna Micko: So her pregnancies could have very easily been all of these multiples.

Laura Birek: It’s remarkable though that you can give birth to multiples in the 1700s and not die over and over.

Shanna Micko: That makes me go like, what?

Laura Birek: I know.

Shanna Micko: It’s wild. I can’t even imagine that. So crazy.

Laura Birek: She has so many kids who are probably all related to her a little bit.

Shanna Micko: I think so. The whole town is probably related to each other back then.

Laura Birek: I’m glad I got that wrong, because I did not want that to be right. That poor lady.

Shanna Micko: I know. God bless her.

Laura Birek: All right. We’re zero, zero. Let’s see. Are you ready?

Shanna Micko: Yeah.

Laura Birek: Newborns don’t have what body part: elbows, kneecaps or hip bones?

Shanna Micko: That’s weird. I have not heard this. I’m probably going to say hip bones just because I feel like that would be a wide part of their body that maybe they would develop later, because it would help them get through the vagina if they didn’t have those yet and also, I feel definitely am feeling some knees and elbows jabbing me inside. So I’m going to go hip bones.

Laura Birek: That is incorrect.

Shanna Micko: Shoot!

Laura Birek: They do not have knee caps. Apparently, they’re cartilaginous like flaps or something before and then they turn into bones later.

Shanna Micko: Wow. That’s interesting. I’ll have to check out her kneecaps when she comes out and see how squishy they are.

Laura Birek: Squishy kneecaps, it’s gross.

Shanna Micko: It gives me the willies. I still have zero points. Your turn. Ready? Which of the following mammals nurses its baby’s milk even though it doesn’t have nipples? A) Squirrel, B) Platypus, C) Dolphin.

Laura Birek: I am going to go with Platypus, because I can’t imagine dolphin nipples. However, Platypuses are the fucking weirdest animals. They’re not fully mammals. They’re mammals, but also don’t they lay eggs.

Shanna Micko: This is your time to work this out, Laura.

Laura Birek: I’m just going to go with Platypus, because I know they’re fucking weird animals.

Shanna Micko: Your gut instinct led you in the right direction.

Laura Birek: Yay!

Shanna Micko: Platypus are what we call monotremes.

Laura Birek: That’s right.

Shanna Micko: Which are mammals that lay eggs and they feed their babies milk. But Platypus, instead of having nipples that their babies latch onto, they kind of sweat out milk from their pores. It puddles off in their bellies and then the babies come over and lap it up like little kittens.

Laura Birek: I swear they’re the weirdest animals. They’re unclassifiable apparently.

Shanna Micko: They just defy nature.

Laura Birek: They call them mammals, because they’re Australian. They have to be.

Shanna Micko: No clue.

Laura Birek: All the weird shit comes from Australia.

Shanna Micko: But speaking of which, dolphins you’re right. They do have nipples. They’re inverted and they come out and they can control the flow of the milk, so it doesn’t go into the water.

Laura Birek: Huh?

Shanna Micko: I thought that was weird and interesting. I had no clue that that’s how dolphin babies fed.

Laura Birek: That’s a cool fact. Aww, little dolphin babies. So cute. So I have one that’s good. Okay. Here we go. How much did the heaviest baby ever born weigh at birth? Horror show coming right up, ready? 19 pounds: two ounces, 22 pounds: zero ounces or 23 pounds: three ounces.

Shanna Micko: Oh man oh man! How does that even happen? That poor baby must have had some condition or something or maybe his mom was eating like five sundaes a day.

Laura Birek: Maybe.

Shanna Micko: I have literally no way to logic this out whatsoever, so I’m going to go the wildest and say 23 point, whatever.

Laura Birek: Ooh, no. I threw that in there because I thought you might think I was doing that. In 1879, a Canadian woman named Anna Bates gave birth to a boy who weighed 22 pounds and measured 28 inches in length.

Shanna Micko: What? Why?

Laura Birek: She gave birth naturally at her home in Ohio, USA. According to the Guinness World Records, Anna Bates herself was seven feet, 11 inches tall. The baby died 11 hours later. I didn’t read that far. That’s very sad. The 19 pounds was another real one. They’re the list of top 10 babies are very big. But there was a recent one. A 19 year old woman in India in May, 2016 gave birth to a 15 pound 24.4 inch baby girl.

Shanna Micko: That sounds perfectly reasonable compared to these other ones.

Laura Birek: But when you are holding your probably seven pound baby after she comes back, twice the size.

Shanna Micko: Wow. Women warriors.

Laura Birek: They’re both in good health and the baby girl was the heaviest on record born in India.

Shanna Micko: Aww, I’m glad they’re all doing well.

Laura Birek: Yes, everyone’s doing well.

Shanna Micko: I have lost this game, but that’s not stopping me from going full steam ahead with my last question. Approximately how many babies are born around the world per minute?

Laura Birek: Okay.

Shanna Micko: A) 1300, B) 725, C) 250.

Laura Birek: Again, you’re giving me the calculator questions, which not that the calculator helped me last time, but it’s good to sort of figure this out. Wait. There’s 60 minutes in an hour, there’s 24 hours in a day. So 60 minutes an hour times 24 hours in a day is 1440 minutes per day. Does that sound right? Is my pregnancy brain throwing me off here?

Shanna Micko: I don’t know. My pregnancy brain has tuned out your calculator talk. I don’t know what you are talking about.

Laura Birek: That makes sense. Sure. 1440 times 1300 would be 1.8 million babies born per day. That’s a lot. 1.87 I should say. Then we got times 725. 725 is just over a million, 1.04 million, and then 250 is 360,000. Let’s see. There are 7 billion people in the world.

Shanna Micko: Something like that.

Laura Birek: I’m just going to go over the big one then, 1300.

Shanna Micko: No.

Laura Birek: God damn!

Shanna Micko: That’s the smallest one.

Laura Birek: Interesting.

Shanna Micko: This US Census Bureau reports that approximately 361,481 babies are born each day around the world.

Laura Birek: I’m sort of thinking like a year. 1.8 million is not a lot in a year, but it is a lot in a day. You’re right. That’s huge. I said I blame my pregnancy brain calculator on that one.

Shanna Micko: Of course, that’s what I blame all my wrong answers on for this and everything’s stupid I do from here until my baby’s born. So it works out to be 251 babies born worldwide per minute.

Laura Birek: Wow. That’s amazing.

Shanna Micko: That’s still quite a lot.

Laura Birek: It is a lot.

Shanna Micko: A lot of babies are going to be born the exact same minute as ours. 

They’re going to be minute twins.

Laura Birek: That’s true. Aww, minute twins. I feel like that’s a pilot we’ll write someday like, the baby is born at the exact minute we were born.

Shanna Micko: Some supernatural force brings them together.

Laura Birek: Absolutely.

Shanna Micko: Ooh, I like it. Let’s do it.

Laura Birek: Put that in the future pitch document.

Shanna Micko: That was a fun rousing game of stump the prego. Congratulations, Laura.

Laura Birek: Thank you.

Shanna Micko: You have won. We are now even.

Laura Birek: We’re even. Fantastic. I like that.

Shanna Micko: Let’s play again.


Laura Birek: All right. We wrap up every show with our BFPs and BFNs for the week. Shanna, what do you have for us this week?

Shanna Micko: BFN. It’s very minor in the grand scheme of things and quite superficial, but I had to get my driver’s license renewed and that means I have to get a new picture and so I had to go and get my driver’s license picture at eight and a half months pregnant. I like having a nice driver’s license picture, because I guess I don’t show it to people as much as I used to because no one cards me anymore.

Laura Birek: No one cards us anymore.

Shanna Micko: Man, so this is like a hold back from my past life. But anyway, I was feeling very puffy faced at this point in pregnancy and I had to go and get my driver’s license picture taken. We’ll see how it turns out.

Laura Birek: I had to do the exact same thing. I didn’t realize we were doing this. I think I went last week. I went and got the real ID. Did you do that?

Shanna Micko: I completely wanted to, but I brought the wrong social security card down there, so I couldn’t do it.

Laura Birek: No.

Shanna Micko: Pregnancy brain.

Laura Birek: For people not in California, there’s this thing where the federal government is no longer going to consider the California driver’s license secure enough I guess for plane travel starting in 2020. So we have to get a special kind of driver’s license where you go and you have to show your social security card and your proof of residency and all this stuff. I think it’s kind of bullshit, but that’s for the political podcast I don’t have. But the problem is that everyone suddenly realizing they have a year to get this done and it takes months to get a proper appointment. I don’t know about you.

Shanna Micko: I’ve been waiting for two, three months for this appointment to come up and that’s what made me really mad that I forgot the right documents. So all I was able to do is just renew my license.

Laura Birek: One day we’ll be able to show our little babies. We’ll be like, this is mommy when she was pregnant with you on a driver’s license. Also, I have like the moon face going so bad right now. I’m just glad the double chin was minimized in my picture. I should say I’m trying to be really, really body positive and not be concerned about this stuff, but everyone knows. It happens. You look at a picture of yourself and you’re like, oh, is that what I look like? I feel you. We’ll have matching moon face, puffy face driver’s licenses.

Shanna Micko: Okay. When we get ours in the mail, we’ll have to compare.

Laura Birek: Yes, we will.

Shanna Micko: All right. What about you?

Laura Birek: (I also have a BFN. This is BFNs weeks. At the beginning of the episode, I talked about all my crazy work deadlines and so the thing that is really bumming me out about it, which is my BFN this week is sitting because I have discovered that sitting makes SPD, my pubic symphysis pain, basically the pain at the front of my hips that’s really, really painful. It makes it way worse the more I sit at my desk.

Shanna Micko: Bummer!

Laura Birek: I can’t not sit at my desk. Before you write in about standing desks, a month before I go on maternity leave, I’m not going to buy a setup for a standing desk. It’s just not going to happen. The only solution is to get up and take more breaks and I try to respect my apple watch when it’s like, “It’s time to stand.” But when you have a client on the phone or you’re rushing to meet a deadline, it’s hard sometimes. Sitting for long periods of time when I stand up, it’s excruciating to the point where I’m considering using a cane that my stepdad left here for when they come down to visit.

Shanna Micko: No, you poor thing.

Laura Birek: I know. At the beginning of the episode, when I said that Corey came home was like, “You sound stuffy,” and I was like, “I’ve just been crying.” That was part of it. It’s because I stood up and it just hurt so bad to go from sitting to standing and basically looking back at my chair and being I don’t want to sit on you anymore.

Shanna Micko: Oh my gosh.

Laura Birek: This is a real bummer, so I’m trying to do everything I can to not sit when I don’t have to and to mitigate the pain. In other ways, I’m looking into other things like chiropractors or physical therapy. There’s something’s I got to give, because I want to be able to walk for the next seven weeks. I’m pretty bummed about that, but anyway, hopefully I won’t have to sit so much soon and I’m trying a new pillow strategy at night. So I’ll report back on that.

Shanna Micko: Man, no wonder you want to wrap this job up and be done with it.

Laura Birek: Totally, because it would be one thing if it was I’m working long hours and I’m tired. But it’s like, I’m working long hours, I’m tired and it physically causes me so much pain. Hats off to people who suffer from chronic pain, because it clouds everything. You know what I mean?

Shanna Micko: Yeah, I would imagine.

Laura Birek: It just makes your every move just so painful and you can’t focus. Anyway, I’m glad it’s hopefully temporary and I’m going to try to figure out something to do, because just hoping it gets better on its own is not working.

Shanna Micko: Tylenol isn’t helping?

Laura Birek: It does help a little. I try not to take it too much, because when I had a cold at the beginning of this pregnancy if you remember, I actually had an appointment with my endocrinologist right after that and I had been taking Tylenol probably for like three weeks nonstop because I was just so sick and my liver enzymes and all my liver panel, because he did a whole blood panel on me were way bad. Not to the point where they were worried about me having a liver problem. But he was like, “That’s just because you’ve been taking Tylenol probably. It’s fighting off a virus”

Shanna Micko: Geez.

Laura Birek: But ever since then I’m like, I don’t want to take too much Tylenol if I don’t have to for that reason.

Shanna Micko: That makes sense.

Laura Birek: So I try to take if I’m really uncomfortable at night or something like that plus we know it kind of takes the edge off a little. But it’s not the good stuff. What I wouldn’t give for like an Aleve.

Shanna Micko: I keep seeing it in my hall closet, because I’m slowly but surely reorganizing it. Every time I just glance that bottle, I’m like four more weeks baby you’re back in my life.

Laura Birek: I’ve totally Googled, “Can you take ibuprofen while breastfeeding?” It was like, “Yes, you can.” I’m like, thank God.

Shanna Micko: Hallelujah.

Laura Birek: Anyway, that’s my week. I think that might be the end of our show too.

Shanna Micko: That’s it. Thank you, guys. Thanks for listening, everybody. We appreciate it.

Laura Birek: Thank you so much. Yes, we love our listeners.

Shanna Micko: Indeed. We would love to hear from you if you have any feedback, comments questions, get in touch. Laura, where can they find us?

Laura Birek: We are on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at BFP Podcast. On Facebook, you can also find our Big Fat Positive community. We also have a website, bigfatpositivepodcast.com.

Shanna Micko: Big Fat Positive is produced by Shanna Micko, Laura Birek and Steve Yager.

Laura Birek: Thanks for listening.

Shanna Micko: Bye.