Mom Wins: First Real Steps and a Birthday Comeback – Ep. 188

Laura

Welcome to Big Fat Positive with Shanna and Laura. This week we have our weekly check-ins. We have our special segment, Mom Wins, where we discuss some recent successes we've had with spreadsheets, sand, and shampoo. And we close with our BFPs and BFNs for the week. Let's get going! Hi, everyone. Welcome to the show. This is episode 188. Hello, Shanna. Hello. How are you doing?

Shanna

Tell me what's going on in your world. Well, I am tired. Um, Cici is three and about a month now. And the last week or so, oh my gosh, she Just will not sleep through the night. You know, we've been fine on sleeping I mean every now and again she would get me up and every now and again L gets me up too and like this week I don't know like they're both just in the middle of the night Coming to get me and let me tell you CECE doesn't want anything to do with Steve So it's all about me and it's like maybe like 11 30 and then two and then you know waking up to start the day at like 5.30 and I am going crazy. I'm so tired. I've started tracking my sleep with my Apple Watch and I realized that I don't get as much sleep as I thought I did. Like I probably would have been like, oh yeah. I get like eight hours of sleep a night because I try to go to bed early.

Laura

What's her problem?

Shanna

Nothing. I think she just wakes up and is in the habit of just hopping out of bed and coming to get me for comfort or something. Occasionally it's like, I had a bad dream but really it's just like she comes in and wants me to put her back to bed or something and I do and what I do is I get in bed with her and lay with her for a couple minutes and I do that because I'm terrified of her throwing up bit and having a tantrum and a meltdown in the middle of the night. So I think there's a bit of it that I've like trained the beast to want that kind of comfort in the middle of the night, you know what I mean?

Laura

Yeah, but I think it's reasonable to not want a massive screaming fit in the middle of the night. Like, I don't think that's you being an unreasonable person.

Shanna

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I've tried reminding her about her OK to wake clock, right? Red, red, stay in bed, green, green, come get me. I've tried, like, role play with her little stuffed animals, like, oh, Pinky wakes up in the middle of the night and Boo is like, Oh, no, Pinky, don't get out of bed. It's red. You gotta stay here. Mommy will be so sad if you go get her. And, you know, she's into that. And she's like, no, no, Pinky, you gotta stay in bed. But, you know, that doesn't help in the middle of the night when she just like, boing, wakes up and automatically comes to get me. So.

Laura

First of all, that sounds awful. I'm sorry. Thank you. As you know, we also had a bunch of like middle of the night wakings for a while. And I'm wondering if this is some kind of regression? that happens, right? Like that we just kind of maybe staggered a little bit because we had like a string. I want to say, was it like a month or so? I don't even remember how long it lasted, but we had a good amount of time where Augie was waking up in the middle of the night and it was driving me fucking bonkers. Mm hmm.

Shanna

Well, let me tell you, I consulted Google, of course, because I'm like, I think I googled, why won't my three year old sleep through the night anymore or something to that effect? And all the results are three year sleep regression. There's a three year sleep regression. And so I'm like, oh my gosh, of course. I feel like every time I Google sleep problems with CECE, it's like, oh, that's the 18 month sleep regression. Oh, that's the three year sleep regression. So apparently it's super common. And the biggest advice is be patient. I was like, are you kidding me? I'm out of patience. It's just like, be patient. It'll pass. And I'm just waiting, waiting for it to pass. And also coincidentally, in my mom's group, people have been posting about a very similar thing. Like their three year olds like either won't go to bed at night or they're suddenly super scared of stuff.

Laura

I like how the advice is have patience when that's like the first thing that goes when you're sleep deprived. Yeah. Have patience even though your body is incapable of patience right now.

Shanna

Totally.

Laura

Also to make this about me, now I'm worried, I'm like, ooh, have we gone through this already and we're through it or was that all related to the move and we're still waiting for this to be ahead of us?

Shanna

Well, you moved way before he had sleep troubles, right?

Laura

Yeah, but you know how it is with kids, right? Like they delay these processing moments, right? Like you move and they're fine. And then two months later they're like, I missed the old house. And you're like, what?

Shanna

Yeah, I don't know. Hopefully it's not coming for you. Hopefully you got through it because what you guys went through was no fun either. So is Elle sleeping through the night at least? Most of the time. occasionally she'll come get me for a bad dream or something super random like she'll wake me up and be like mama my water bottle doesn't have enough water in it girl you're five years old go fill your own bottle but i'm such a pushover i'm really sweet at night i don't know i just feel like my little kids alone and awake in this dark house. They need their mama. And so I just, I don't know. I'm like pulled by the sense of responsibility. So I will get up and, you know, get that for her. And sometimes I'll lay with her too. But that kind of gets her in a habit too. Like the other night I was like, I'm not laying with you.

Laura

Well, that's good. I think it's good to be responsive to the kids. Like, I was a super, super anxious sleeper when I was a kid, and I ended up in my mom's bed, like, basically most nights to the point where she finally was just like, just start sleeping in here. Like, so we ended up just sharing a bed for the longest time because... I remember waking up in the middle of the night from a nightmare and being terrified and I have these very vivid memories of lying in bed, scared out of my mind and trying to decide whether it was better to just stay in bed and be scared or like brave the trip to my mom's room. And I should mention that the trip to my mom's room involved going through my closet. Oh, that's kind of creepy. Thank you. So it was weird.

Shanna

100%.

Laura

And basically like running through it as fast as I could to try to get to my mom's room. It literally never occurred to me that I could go into the hallway and just like go in her main door.

Shanna

Yeah, it can be really scary to wake up in the middle of the night and you're the only one up and it's dark and I get that. So I try to be kind, but I'm also like, mommy needs her sleep. Yeah.

Laura

So it's a balance. It's a balance. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry about that. I knew something was going on because we've tried to record like ads and stuff and you've been like, I I just woke up because I was up like at 2 a.m. 5 a.m. Like you were up all night.

Shanna

Oh, yeah, and the other day I just got to a point where I demanded to sleep it and like demanded a nap in the morning, which is like Steve, please you get up and take care of everyone in the morning because I have to sleep more and I'm not one to usually do that, but I'm trying to do it more now because I see the toll it takes on me during the day to not get that sleep. So I'm trying to take better care of myself in the ways that I can.

Laura

You know, I was a really diligent sleep tracker up until I had Augie. And then it got so depressing that I stopped completely. Cause I was just like, I don't need to know. And it would like, I remember specifically there was one day the little alert popped up and it was like, you got 40 minutes of sleep last night. It was literally, it was like less than an hour of sleep last night. And I was just like, I can't do this. I can't be reminded about this. This is when he was a newborn, obviously. I think it was before we got the SNU though. It was like four weeks when we didn't have the SNU and it was terrible. So bad. But I feel like maybe now I should try again because I think I get decent sleep, but I might be like you. I might not actually be getting as much as I think I am.

Shanna

Yeah, I was really surprised by that. I don't know what I'm going to really do with that information. And I, you know, I just kind of look at it in the morning every day to be like justified of my tiredness. I think that's why I like it. It's like I've spent these last couple of years of the pandemic, especially just being like, God, I'm so tired all the time. Why? Why am I so tired all the time? And now I've got the Apple Watch and the Sleep Tracker. And I'm like, oh, because I just don't sleep as well as I thought I did. You know, like so often I have migraines in the middle of night. It's just like, it's a shit show, but I'm doing the best I can.

Laura

Well, I am sending some sleep dust your way. Thank you. The Sandman, yes, for Cece, really, because I feel like you would have no problem actually sleeping if the kids didn't wake you up.

Shanna

Exactly, exactly. Well, thank you. I appreciate it, and I'm sure I will be updating you as the weeks go on, and hopefully things will get better.

Laura

Yes, yes, I hope so.

Shanna

All right. But what about you? How are you guys doing?

Laura

We're good. Actually, we've had a very fun week and you were involved in this week's fun.

Shanna

That's right. I forgot because my brain doesn't work anymore because I don't sleep. But yes. Okay. I'm remembering now.

Laura

What happened this week was Augie turned three. Oh, yeah. I know he's a big guy now. And it's just really, really fun. Like he's turning into such a fun little kid. You know, he has his moments that aren't fun, but he's just funny. And I talked about it last week about how he just is talking up a storm. And it's just so fun to see him develop into this little boy who we just love so much. So yeah, he turned three this week. And it was a Tuesday when he turned three, which happened to be a school day, which honestly was like great. Get him out of the house.

Shanna

I know, isn't it like 40,000 a day in LA right now or something? Something like that. It's insane.

Laura

So yeah. Luckily, I've learned a thing or two throughout this pandemic, and I chose not to tell Augie all the details about his birthday party ahead of time. Because I knew there was a solid chance it would either get canceled outright or pared down significantly before it happened. I did not hype it up. I told them there was going to be a party. I did not like say how many people were coming. I didn't say who was coming. So I officially canceled the party and then we just reinvited like five families who we know and know that they're all vaccinated, first of all, because like, I mean, I asked that all the parents from school that I invited would be vaccinated, but like, I don't know for sure. And it's not like I'm going to verify it, right? But this group, we knew everyone was vaccinated, we knew everyone was cautious, and it was a much smaller group.

Shanna

So fun. Those kids loved it.

Laura

It was so funny. So we were like doing all the normal parachute games, right? And I actually think you started this. You were like, who wants to go for a ride?

Shanna

Oh, yeah, I did. I knew they would love that.

Laura

And like, I think originally it was like one kid at a time. It ended with like five kids all piled on or like actually it was like seven kids because it was Augie and Sebastian. And like it was like five families we invited, but like you guys have two kids. Like we have two kids. Right. So it's like seven kids piled onto this parachute and like three to four adults having to drag it around. Oh my God.

Shanna

The kids were laughing hysterically, rolling over onto each other. It was just so fun. It just felt like such a fun like family get together. I don't know. There was just something like Just down home fun, just great about the whole event. And that in particular was just like, yay. It was wholesome.

Laura

Like it was wholesome AF, right?

Shanna

Yeah.

Laura

Just good wholesome fun. So good. Yeah, so that's what we did this week. And then the only other update I want to give is that last week, we had a debate about whether Sebastian was actually walking or whether he was just sort of taking a few steps and the debate is over this week. He's now 11 months in a week and he is full fledged toddling. Like he gets up, he has to pull up to stand on like a table or something still. But then he goes like walk walk walk pause walk walk walk pause walk walk walk pause so like the kid is walking.

Shanna

Yeah I saw an action so I can verify um he is walking and it's the cutest thing ever.

Laura

Oh no you know what it's not the cutest thing ever because one other thing happened this week and that was the cutest thing ever okay he blew a kiss.

Shanna

Oh, yes!

Laura

He went, mwah, mwah, with his little hand. Oh, my God. I'm addicted to it. I make him do it as much as possible. I'm like, let's do it again. And he's like, we're not saying bye to anyone. I don't care. Let's focus. Oh, my gosh. Oh, he's so cute. He's so cute. Love. Me too. Okay. So it was really, really fun to see you guys and to have a little party. And yeah, it was just a good week. I'm sorry your week was sleep deprived while my week was like all fun and games, but.

Shanna

Oh, that's okay. We all have our turns, different moments in life. It's all good. And I did have a blast at your party. It was so fun. I think we stayed for like five or six hours. Like people were gone and we're just like, we're still here.

Laura

It was great. I was all about that. I was like, please stay as long as you want. I need social interaction.

Shanna

So fun seeing our kids play together, too. It's just like, that's what I envisioned when we got pregnant at the same time. And then the stupid pandemic messed everything up. And now they're like buddies and playing in that box. And oh my God, it was just fun.

Laura

I know. And Augie, the box that people hate, the people like, what are you talking about, the box?

Shanna

Oh, yeah.

Laura

We got a sandbox, like one of those little turtle sandboxes for the kids, like part of Augie's birthday present. And our kids, after everyone else had gone home, our kids spent like a half hour solid just playing in that box, not the sandbox, the box the sandbox came in.

Shanna

We're back, and this week's special segment is Mom Wins, where we talk about some of the high points of our moming journey recently. Laura, you're up first. I'm dying to know what your mom win is.

Laura

Okay. I mean, high points of my moming journey. Mine are, I have two, all right, to share with you. And they're both very practical, but I feel like they're mom wins, like deep in my soul, and I'll tell you why, okay? Okay. So my first one is a spreadsheet.

Shanna

Oh, okay. I like where this is going. Okay. Tell us why this is helpful and how you've been using it.

Laura

Yeah. So the point is just to have a good reference for the inevitable next time you have to talk to a customer service representative because whatever you called about the first time it didn't work out.

Shanna

What?

Laura

Oh, wow. Yeah. So that was a big mom win because my spreadsheet came through.

Shanna

That's awesome. Yay. That sounds like it would have been really helpful for me when I was trying to call LA Sanitation Services about that dead animal in my yard. Maybe that would have helped me keep my cool.

Laura

Maybe that would have helped you not yell at the person who's telling you, well, we can't see the carcass.

Shanna

You said you'd be back. All right. That's a genius idea, because I do spend a lot of time on the phone with customer service people. So this could be very helpful.

Laura

Yeah. So I think maybe I'll just make this as a template. Like maybe I'll put a link in our show notes of the really basic customer service spreadsheet template so people could do it themselves on Google Sheets. But I really like it. It's really helping. And you keep a record of it. It's not like I delete it. So for instance, I have some stuff with my bank. I had to call to close an account, right? And so I put who I talked to, what I talked to them, and what they said because they said, okay, your account will be closed on this date, blah, blah, blah. And so if something goes wrong, I'll actually be able to tell them, no, no, no. I did it on this day as opposed to being like, I don't know, I think I called a week ago. I'm not entirely sure what they said. Write it down because this brain isn't forming memories like it used to. I hear you. So, yeah, so that's my first mom win.

Shanna

It's a spreadsheet. I feel like it's very on brand for me. Indeed, indeed. Mine involves sand, so it's on brand.

Laura

Let's hear your mom win.

Shanna

Okay. So Elle's birthday is coming up in a few weeks. And as I do, I'm getting ready for her birthday to make it a big thing. And this year she wants her theme to be Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo. And it's like, okay, cool. You know, nobody really makes Scooby-Doo shit anymore because it's a show from the 1960s. It was like Scooby-Doo cake toppers. You know, no one sells this stuff. I did get like a banner and stuff like that. But as far as like figurines and stuff, no, they're not really sold anymore. Like everything I'm finding is like vintage or super, super rare and expensive and probably has lead in it. Oh.

Laura

Of course, it's like the main character. Yeah, the main character shaggy or something.

Shanna

Yeah, exactly. Who cares about shaggy? So fine. I don't want to write. I've got my my tennis shoes and my jeans and I just don't want to get down in the sand. But I'm like, it's scoops. I like, we got to find scoops. You hate sand. I hate sand. I really, really do not like sand.

Laura

You may not know this listeners because she brought two tons of sand into her backyard, but she does hate sand.

Shanna

Before I did that, maybe even on this podcast, I was like, my kids are never going to have a sandbox. I hate sand so much. But you know, you do what you do for your kids. I'm down on the sand. You know, the kids are kind of losing interest at this point. And I'm just like down there, like just shoving my hand under the sand, like trying to find Scooby. I swear to God, I covered like, I don't know, six square feet. That's like a lot of sand. I'm like, how is Scooby lost in here? I'm like, my hands and fingers are feeling raw from like the exfoliation of the sand and digging and CECE's kind of trying to help and the sun's going down. Like parents are looking at me like I'm a nut job, like down here on the sand. And the sun started going down so far that I was like, I'm sorry, honey, we have to leave Scooby here. Scooby's not going to be found. Scooby-dooby-do, where are you?

Laura

Yeah, exactly.

Shanna

We were definitely saying that, like, while we're digging Scooby-dooby-do, where are you? She's crying, like, and when she cries, she loves to be dramatic. She's just, like, kind of like, like, forcing, like, boogers to blow out her nose and sobbing and heaving. I'm like, I'm sorry, honey. Like, I don't know what we'll do. We'll figure something else out. And we left, we left Scooby at Playground and went home. What?

Laura

Well, this doesn't sound like a win to me, Shanna. Please tell me there's more to the story.

Shanna

No, it was not a win. It was the dark night of the souls part of my story. If you are familiar with, I think it's Save the Cat screenwriting book. You know, you've got to get to the depth.

Laura

Of course.

Shanna

Over and over. I don't know how we missed him. I have no idea. And it took me forever that morning to actually find him. I was like, Yes, I found him. And all my friends were like, yay. And I'm like, I told you he's here. I think because when I showed up and I was like, you guys, I'm going to find Scooby Doo, they looked at me like I was bananas. They're like, yeah, we lost like a writer from Paw Patrol here once. And like, that's a goner.

Laura

But we need to put this on our cake. I'm envisioning you with like a helmet and a headlamp. Like you're going mining, you know, like old timey excavating.

Shanna

Oh, that's so what it felt like. They're like digging for gold or something. Like a pickaxe over your shoulder. 100%. That was so me. And they're just like, OK, Shanna, whatever you're going to do. And I was like, he's here. I found him. I found him. See, I'm not crazy. I found him. And they were like, yay. And I was like, oh, I took a picture of myself with Scooby and was so excited. Like I got home and like told Steve and he was like, oh my God, good job, mama. And like L came home and I was like, look what I found. And she's like, cool. Like just not the reaction I was hoping for. But really?

Laura

Come on, kid. I know.

Shanna

She went through. She was really happy, but you know, she's just kind of understated sometimes. So I was just really proud that I found Scooby. And now we're keeping him in like a an enclosed locked glass treasure chest. No, I'm just kidding. He's just so awesome. But we're never taking him to the park again.

Laura

Good call. Oh my God. Good for you. I would have given up 100%.

Shanna

Yeah, I don't know. Something kicked in that intensity of just like, I'm going to do this. I think because I felt so bananas like showing up with my adult friends and being like, here I'm digging in this sand. Like, I was like, I have to make this happen. I have to make this happen.

Laura

Yeah, because if you didn't find it, then you would forever be that weirdo who showed up and spent like an hour digging in the sand and then went home crying.

Shanna

Yes, exactly, exactly. I succeeded. We could put Scooby on the cake after a good scrubbing, of course. We'll see how that goes.

Laura

All right. Well, good job. Thank you. You're part of the Scooby gang now, I think.

Shanna

Yeah, I think I earned my place in the gang.

Laura

For sure.

Shanna

OK, so you have another mom win for us, which I want to hear. I do. But should we take a break and come back with it afterward? Oh, good idea. OK.

Laura

Okay, this mom win is a washcloth. Ooh. Just plain old washcloth doesn't have anything fancy on it and it can be any washcloth in your house. But it is my mom win because it has enabled me to do something with Augie that he has been dreading and not cooperating with. Four months and I'm here to tell you how I got it to work. Okay, okay That thing that he would not do is let me wash his hair. Oh Okay, he used to have zero problem with like water being on his face and washing his hair It was all fine. He'd love to like flop back in the bath and get his hair wet and all that stuff, right? I don't know what changed I don't know exactly when it changed but a couple months ago He started like being kind of fussy about having water on his face And it turned into never wanting to get his hair wet or get his hair washed because you need to have wet hair to use typical shampoo.

Shanna

Was it a dry washcloth or?

Laura

A dry washcloth, yes. Oh, okay. And, you know, in my mind, I'm just thinking, you know, it'll help, like, create a barrier and keep his face dry. Right. But, and of course, like, I'm thinking, I'm trying to really sell this, like, it's gonna be a fun, magical washcloth. And in my mind, I'm like, he's not gonna fall for this shit, right? Yeah. He fell for that shit. Yes. It was like a magic washcloth. I was like, yes, a magic washcloth, but you have to hold it over your face while we do it. Right. And so I like held the washcloth over his face and like used it to create a little barrier, like, you know, around his hairline. And he started laughing while we were doing a hair wash. And it's gotten to the point now where he will just let me wash his hair. He doesn't love getting water on his face still, but he doesn't scream and cry when it comes time to wash his hair.

Shanna

That's awesome. Yay. Good job. Well, what about his face? Does he not like his face washed? How do you guys handle that?

Laura

We kind of just like get water on our hands and kind of like rub it around and kind of, but it's, I think it's like really the dripping like when it's anywhere near his eyes. So, and it's like, if it runs down his face, I don't know. I don't really understand the rules. Cause sometimes he splashes himself and he thinks it's funny, you know? Then you like spit water onto his brother the other night. Oh geez.

Shanna

Yeah, that's awesome. I'm gonna keep that in my back pocket.

Laura

Yeah, but that is my second mom win. I think you said you just have the one magical Scooby-Doo finding adventure. So I think it's time to move on to our BFPs and we offense. All right, let's do it.

Shanna

I have a BFP. Yay. Yay. My BFP is scissors.

Laura

I love scissors.

Shanna

They are. They are. Specifically, she discovered the scissors that we have around the house, like in Elle's little school homework kit or whatever. And she has become obsessed with them. She loves learning how to use them and how to cut things. Which is cool. It's like a skill that kids learn at some point. But what I really love about it is she's so into it that it will occupy her for really long periods of time. And for a three-year-old, a really long period of time. I'm talking like maybe 30 minutes. Oh, that's ages. Yes.

Laura

Ages for a three-year-old.

Shanna

Mm-hmm. She will cut a piece of paper into little bits. Like she'll basically make like little confetti stuff. So I have to like kind of make sure there's nothing important around like she accidentally cut a paper that Elle brought home from school the other day right into like confetti. And Elle was like, that was my picture. And I'm like, oh my god, I'm sorry, I didn't realize. I have to be aware of that. You know, I'm always like, don't cut your clothes. Don't cut your hair. Don't cut your skin, but you can cut this paper.

Laura

Oh, she's going to cut her hair. It's like just a matter of time, right? Yes, yes, yes.

Shanna

Every kid does. Elle's done it a couple of times to herself when she was younger. I know CECE will too. But she's so focused on cutting paper, but also ribbon. I think this really started around Christmas-ish time when I was wrapping presents and you have curling ribbon out. And I needed her to be occupied for a little bit and be a helper to wrap. So I was like, oh, here, take this ribbon. I need you to cut this ribbon. up, just make up a task, right? And she took it so seriously, like she was taking that ribbon and cutting each tiny little like centimeter off, you know. So it's just like all this stuff everywhere, which is kind of the bummer have to clean stuff up. But the focus and like the amount of time that she's just engaged is awesome.

Laura

So are these like the spring loaded kind or just normal kid scissors?

Shanna

No, they're just normal kid scissors, like small for small hands and then rounded tip instead of a pointy tip. That's good. No stabbing. It's good. No stabbing.

Laura

Because we do have some kid scissors I bought way too early. Like I think at some point someone was like at 18 months, they could use like, okay, I'll buy some. No, it's just way too early. But I got the kind that could be spring loaded or not, you know, like you can flip a little thing. So I might try it without the spring because I think he's old enough now. He can he can just open and close them. So yeah, yeah, I really want to do this. I want him to sit down and just cut stuff up so I can do other things.

Shanna

Yes. Give it a try.

Laura

OK, I will.

Shanna

Thanks for the tip. Yeah. All right. What about you? What do you got for us this week?

Laura

I have a BFP as well, and mine is a BFP for me, which is I treated myself to a new water bottle. Which is already a BFP because I have like this hydro flask that I've talked about on the show. It's like a 32 ounce hydro flask. It's perfect for me and I've had it since before Augie was born and it's like dented and all that stuff. But I love it. I use it every day, all day. And the problem I have with it is that I never can find the lid if we're like going somewhere. And I keep talking to myself about how I need to like get another lid and blah, blah, blah. Well, I like mentioned it to our nanny, Eliza, because I was like trying to get out of the house and couldn't find the lid and wanted my water. And I it was a whole thing because if I don't have my water, I don't feel it's like my security blanket. And she sent me a link and she was like hydro flask is having a sale right now.

Shanna

Yeah, those hooks are really helpful because the hydro flask is kind of heavy, especially when it's heavy water. Yes.

Laura

And slippery, like I should probably get some kind of sleeve for it, but it's not like the grippiest material. So yeah, I just feel very fancy having two water bottles.

Shanna

Did you get like a color and design or something that makes you really happy?

Laura

Well, the one I have is like a turquoise. And so I got like another blue. They discontinued the turquoise I have and I got a different blue. I like the blues. I like the blues and the greens. I know you do too. Mm-hmm, mine is blue. But I do want to get these really cool, they call them like infinity stickers that you wrap around and it creates sort of like a landscape. They're designed for hydroflasks. And there's one that's Yosemite and I want to like get that.

Shanna

Oh, that's a good idea. That sounds nice. The lid that you have, is it like a flip up straw thing? Cause that's what I have, but I'm wondering if there's a better one out there I would like better.

Laura

No, I just got the plain old like it's a cap with a handle. And I don't know, I always feel weird about the flip up lids because then you have to like wash them. And I mean, I do I wash my hydro flask, but you know what I mean? Like you got to get in the nooks and crannies and stuff. And oh, you do. Oh.

Shanna

I throw mine in the dishwasher.

Laura

Oh, well, that's fine. Yeah. So, but I just, I enjoy the like mouthfeel of drinking from the wide mouth bottle. I don't know. I feel like this is getting very personal, Shanna. Well, no, I- I feel like this is merging into personal territory.

Shanna

Well, I think that is important. I think that's what I don't like about my hydro flask is the flip straw thing because it's not the right mouth feel. It's not an easy sip. It's kind of hard to sip. So maybe I should try just untwisting and just drinking straight out of the bottle. I've like literally never tried that with it.

Laura

It's a whole new world, Shanna. You'll have to do it and check back.

Shanna

Okay. I will. Yeah.

Laura

Okay, well, that's my BFP not too earth shattering, but it is a huge improvement for me and if you are also struggling with like only having one of something and you can easily get multiples just like and you can afford it just get the multiples like with on sale the lids were like $3 or something like why didn't I do this a year ago Shanna?

Shanna

Yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean Anyway, awesome. Well, I think that's our show and listeners. If you have any mom wins that you want to share with us, please reach out. Laura, where can everyone reach us?

Laura

We're on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and TikTok at BFP podcast. We have a website, Big Fat Positive podcast.com. And if you want to send us an email, you can always throw a voice memo into that email. Just send it to contact at Big Fat Positive podcast.com. And finally, if you want to join a super cool group of people on the internet, just search Facebook for Big Fat Positive Community. Request to join. Just answer those two membership questions and we'll send you straight through to our awesome private group full of cool, cool people talking about cool, cool things.

Shanna

And if you love our show, please rate us and review us wherever you listen. Laura, we've got a five star review to read this week. Oh, do we? We do. This is from New Mom 2. They say, love this podcast, Five Stars. Great audio on the podcast and great chemistry between the two hosts. I love the informative topics and real life stories between these two awesome moms. Aw, thank you, new mom, too. Love it. And if you want to leave us a Five Star review, please do. And we might read it on our show. Our show is produced by Laura Birek, Shanna Micko, and Steve Yager. Thanks so much for listening, everyone. Bye. Bye.